ARTICLE SUMMARY
- Vitamin D blood testing and oral supplementation have become an almost routine part of conventional medical care.
- Unfortunately, the results of a vitamin D blood test do not always reflect the true picture of an individual’s vitamin D status, and whether or not supplementation is warranted and in what amount.
- There is a growing concern that the trend to aim for higher blood levels of vitamin D is not supported by the scientific evidence, and over time may contribute to calcification of the arteries, kidney stones and other health problems.
- Weston A. Price Foundation members will not be surprised by this. Our Foundation has always taught the critical importance of consuming all of the fat-soluble vitamins, as Dr. Price discovered and more recent research has confirmed.
- Various agency guidelines differ as to the optimum amount of dietary vitamin D. There are a number of limitations to testing, and interpretations of vitamin D levels are presented. Serum levels of 30ng/mL are adequate for preventing bone loss.
- Vitamins A, D and K2 work synergistically. Rich dietary sources of all three vitamins can enhance their health benefits while simultaneously eliminating both the need for testing and concern for potential over-supplementation.
Vitamin D has far and away been receiving the most attention of all the vitamins, both from the medical community and from health-conscious individuals. Since the new millennium, scientific research on the relationship of vitamin D to health and disease has exploded; for example, in 2015, 13% of the budget of the Office of Dietary Supplements was spent on vitamin D research, with just 6% going to research the other twelve vitamins combined.1 Population-wide ālow-levelsā have even been referred to as a āvitamin D deficiency pandemic.ā 2 Eighteen percent of Americans are now taking at least 1,000 International Units (IU) of vitamin D per day, up from 0.3 percent in 2000. More than three percent of adults are now taking amounts greater than 4,000 IU per day, up from 0.1% in 2007, a trend that is raising red flags in the medical community.3,4
Today nutritionally oriented practitioners routinely recommend vitamin D blood testing followed by supplementation, a trend that has been building over the last decade. Interest in testing surged in 2011 when the Endocrine Society published their recommendation that vitamin D levels should be no lower than 30 ng/mL.
Today even conventionally minded doctors are testing and prescribing vitamin D supplements. Medicare experienced an 83-fold increase in vitamin D blood tests from 2000 to 2010, and commercial health insurers saw a 2.5-fold increase from 2009 to 2014.5 Having a robust vitamin D level has become akin to having a low cholesterol level, thought to be a marker of good health. Astute readers know that this modern-day quest for optimal health and longevity is fraught with risks.
As with any trend in medicine, many are now questioning the benefits of vitamin D testing. Medscape, an influential source for continuing medical education, recently advised doctors that vitamin D testing is both expensive and not fully reliable, encouraging supplements of 1,000 IU per day for adults as both safe and sufficient without the requirement for testing.6 Health insurers are asked to cover the fifty dollar cost of the test, which they state for most cases is not medically necessary; some are now denying reimbursement, which is not surprising since the Institute of Medicine stated in their 2010 report on vitamin D, ā[T]he measurements, or cut-points, of sufficiency and deficiency used by laboratories to report results have not been set based on rigorous scientific studies, and no central authority has determined which cut-points to use.ā7
TYPICAL TESTING AND SUPPLEMENTATION PROTOCOLS
Vitamin D3 is the natural form synthesized in the skin upon exposure to UVB light, or consumed from animal-based foods; vitamin D2 is the artificial or plant-derived form often used in food fortification, supplements and pharmaceutical preparations. (See sidebar on page 32 for differences between vitamin D2 and D3, and problems with vitamin D supplements.) Both of these forms enter the bloodstream carried on a binding protein and then are immediately taken up by the liver for hydroxylation, or alternatively by the adipose tissue for storage. The liver hydroxylation of vitamin D yields 25(OH)D, or calcidiol, the major circulating form of vitamin D in the blood with a half-life of about three weeks; this is the form measured by the commonly ordered āvitamin D test.ā (Test results may be broken down by the amount of 25(OH) vitamin D3 versus 25(OH) vitamin D2, but more often only the sum of the two forms is reported.) Circulating 25(OH)D then undergoes a second hydroxylation either in the kidneys or in target tissues to produce the hormonally active form, 1,25(OH)2D, or calcitriol. Circulating 1,25(OH)2D can also be measured, but is most clinically useful in cases of kidney disease, or in diseases that may lead to excessive levels of vitamin D and/or calcium such as sarcoidosis or certain lymphomas.
If serum 25(OH)D comes back below or near the bottom of the laboratory reference range, doctors will typically prescribe vitamin D2 at a dose of 50,000 IU per week for eight weeks. Iāve observed that after this initial treatment many patients will continue supplementation with an over-the-counter product containing 400 to 2,000 IU (occasionally as high as 5,000 IU) of vitamin D3 per day, sometimes per the doctorās advice but more often the patientās own choosing. There does not always seem to be a clear rationale behind this practice; it may be what the patient finds at the drugstore either in a vitamin D supplement or in a multivitamin, or what the doctor generally recommends for patients. Nutritionally-oriented practitioners often recommend a daily vitamin D3 supplement (usually between 2,000 and 10,000 IU per day); some are now recommending a vitamin K2 supplement (100-200 mcg or more) as well. However, it is exceedingly rare for doctors to recommend food or supplements containing vitamin A in the form of retinol.
When I see a patient whose vitamin D test result is just below or near 20 ng/mL, I share with them the view that this level may not be optimal. Patients often respond, āYes, my doctor told me that my vitamin D was really low.ā I assure them that levels in the 20s are not of great concern, especially when tested in the winter. Then I advise them that supplementation to increase their levels to between 30 and 50 can be clinically appropriate, as long as we pay attention to all of the fat-soluble vitamins. This opens up a discussion about their need for vitamin A, especially when they have one or more signs of low vitamin A status: dry eyes, poor night vision, keratinized bumps on their skin especially on the back of the upper arms, frequent respiratory infections and acne, confirmed by my review of their dietary intake. Even popular diets like the paleo diet and low-carb plans are often very poor sources of preformed vitamin A when patients donāt include nourishing traditional foods.
My daughter Laura, also a registered dietitian, finds that many of her patients, like mine, are low in vitamin A. We both have seen remarkable health improvements in these individuals when a source of preformed vitamin A is provided.
Doctorsā interpretations of vitamin D test results are not surprisingāthe lab reference ranges are typically 30-100 ng/mL, and in my experience, doctors now consider the ideal vitamin D level to be at least 50-60 ng/mL. Quest Diagnostics Labs suggests interpreting levels with this in mind: āThe reference range for total 25(OH)D (20-100 ng/mL) is based on 25(OH)D correlation with physiological parameters that include parathyroid hormone [PTH] concentration and calcium absorption. The range is not based on the distribution of levels in an apparently healthy populationā (emphasis added).8
With such wide laboratory reference ranges, what can we say with reasonable confidence about the level of 25(OH)D in the blood needed to optimize PTH and calcium absorption, and more importantly, to optimize overall health? Do higher levels reduce other health risks or improve problems such as cancer, autoimmune disease, heart disease or any other chronic condition? Do the benefits of higher levels outweigh any potential adverse effects? Are there potential limitations or problems with testing? Can blood levels of 25(OH)D be translated into rule-of-thumb supplementation guidelines? Is there a better way to evaluate our levels or should we even routinely test at all?
Before I offer answers to these compelling questions, we are wise to consider the practices of the healthy pre-industrial populations Dr. Price visited, populations that neither had knowledge of āvitamin Dā (or any isolated vitamin) nor the ābenefitā of blood testing.
PRE-INDUSTRIAL POPULATIONS
How did pre-industrial populations obtain vitamin D? While the discovery and isolation of vitamins in the early 20th century is considered a milestone in our understanding of nutrition and health, humans have survived and thrived without the knowledge of which foods contained which vitamins. The populations studied by Price took great care to emphasize the consumption of foods that are now recognized as excellent sources of all the fat-soluble vitamins, including vitamin D: deep yellow butter, seafood including fish eggs, organ meats, insects and animal blood.9 In addition, routine sun exposure during the activities of daily life resulted in significant skin vitamin D synthesis. The modern practice of hours spent āsunbathingā did not exist (see sidebar on page 33).
There are challenges in obtaining adequate amounts of vitamin D from sun exposure and diet alone. Today individuals are often genetically āmismatchedā to the climate where they live. (Genetic adaptations require many successive generations.) There is a marked reduction in cutaneous vitamin D biosynthesis in northern latitudes during the winter months, and virtually none above 40 degrees.10 Darker-pigmented individuals can require five to ten times the duration of sun exposure to produce the same amount of vitamin D as lighter-pigmented persons. With the need to cover the skin during cold weather, it is not unexpected that vitamin D levels can plummet during the winter, made worse by limited summer sun exposure, which can lead to year-round low vitamin D levels.
Contemporary habits of applying and reapplying sunscreens (SPF 8 or greater) can significantly reduce skin vitamin D synthesis. Showering shortly after outdoor activities, and swimming in chlorinated pools may also reduce the quantity of vitamin D our bodies make. Age is a factor too; adults older than seventy need about three times the duration of sun exposure to produce the same amount of vitamin D as children. Non-solar sources of vitamin D are essential in these cases, just as populations living near the poles consumed vitamin D-rich foods as part of their native diet: the organs of ocean fish especially the liver and the fish liver oils, and seal oil and whale blubber (also rich sources of vitamin A!).11
HOW MUCH VITAMIN D?
What amount of oral vitamin D is required when sun exposure is inadequate? Clearly, many individuals are less able to obtain vitamin D from sun exposure, and modern low-animal fat diets do not provide much naturally occurring vitamin D.12 Following todayās conventional approach of paying attention to only vitamin D intake, this problem appears to be fairly simple to address: use the results of the most recent blood test, supplement accordingly, then retest and adjust the dosage as needed. Selecting a blood level of 25(OH)D to target then becomes the first decisionānot always so straightforward though. For example, if the result is between 20-30 ng/mL, this is, according to the Institute of Medicine, āsufficient,ā13,14 according to the Endocrine Society āinsufficient,ā15 and according to the Vitamin D Council ādeficientā16 (see chart below). Interpreting the tests depends on which health agency a practitioner or individual relies upon.17
The next step would be to choose a dose of vitamin D that is both safe and effective. As stated before, it is common to prescribe or recommend supplementation when a patientās levels are below 30 ng/mL, in accordance with guidelines from the Endocrine Society and the Vitamin D Council. Some practitioners may choose to be conservative with a dose of 1,000 IU per day, especially if they donāt expect routine follow-up visits or testing by their patient; 2,000-4,000 IU per day might be chosen if the patient tests below 30 ng/ml and does not get adequate sun exposure; 5,000-10,000 IU per day or more for short term or if the patient will be retested in a few months; even up to 10,000 IU long term, which according to the Vitamin D Council, should not present a risk of toxicity. Rule-of-thumb supplementation has been suggested as follows: to raise serum 25(OH)D by approximately 1 ng/mL, supplement with 100 IU oral vitamin D daily. However, individual responses to standard dosages often vary considerably18 ā several caveats are discussed below.
DESIRABLE VITAMIN D LEVELS
Despite a lack of consensus, what appears to be a desirable vitamin D level? Vitamin D, in the activated form of 1,25(OH)2D, acts on many different cells in the body both through calcemic roles, regulating calcium and phosphate concentrations, and noncalcemic roles. Noncalcemic roles include cell differentiation and antiproliferative actions in a wide range of cell types such as the immune, muscle and gastrointestinal systems.19 Research has shown inverse associations between vitamin D levels (regardless of sun exposure) and the incidence of several diseases, pointing to roles in the prevention of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, autoimmune disease, neuromuscular impairment and more.20 The evidence to support an optimum range of serum 25(OH)D for health outcomes is strongest when considering the impact of vitamin D on bone health.13 Calcium homeostasis is achieved by the influence of 1,25(OH)2D on calcium absorption, uptake and release from bone tissue and excretion from the kidneys. Adequate levels of 25(OH)D are needed to ensure adequate synthesis of 1,25(OH)D, important for bone mineralization and general muscle and bone health. Severe vitamin D deficiency can result in hypocalcemic seizures and weak or misshapen bonesārickets in growing children, osteomalacia and osteoporosis in adults.
According to expert opinions, the minimum level of serum 25(OH)D needed for bone fracture prevention ranges between 20-32 ng/mL with desirable 25(OH)D concentrations between 28-32 ng/mL. It is estimated that the average older man and woman will need intakes of at least 800 to 1,000 IU per day of vitamin D3 to reach a serum 25(OH)D level of 30 ng/mL.21 In addition, vitamin D supplementation at 600-800 IU per day has been shown in studies to reduce fracture risk when calcium is also supplemented.22 Caution with higher levels accompanied by calcium supplementation is advised: according to the Merck Manual, ātarget 25(OH)D levels are > 20 to 24 ng/mL for maximal bone health; whether higher levels have other benefits remains uncertain, and higher absorption of calcium may increase risk of coronary artery disease.ā23
The efficiency of calcium absorption in the small intestine increases with higher levels of serum 25(OH)D, reaching a plateau at 32 ng/mL.24 Some studies suggest that the lower end of the IOM reference range for 25(OH)D, 20 ng/mL, may not optimize calcium absorption, and that levels of at least 32 ng/mL may be required.25
Bone mass density (BMD) has been positively associated with 25(OH)D levels, as one might expect. In the Multi-Ethnic Study of Atherosclerosis involving 1,773 adult participants, this association was significant for Caucasian and Asian participants alone; in Hispanics there was a non-statistically significant association. An inverse association was actually found in Black participants: those having 25(OH)D levels less than 20 ng/mL had higher BMD than those with levels greater than 30 ng/mL. Even more surprising may be the finding that 25(OH)D levels were highest among Whites and lowest among Blacks, but BMD was highest among Blacks. The IOM states that āAfrican-Americans present a conundrum, because, although their serum values are lower than those of white counterparts, their rates of osteoporosis and fractures are lower than Caucasians.ā22 Thus it appears that when interpreting blood test results, racial differences should be considered as they may influence recommendations for vitamin D supplementation.26
The level of 25(OH)D required for maximum suppression of parathyroid levels is also an indicator of vitamin D requirement. Chronic elevations of serum PTH increase osteoclast (bone cell breakdown) activity, negatively affecting bone density. Besides low vitamin D levels, low dietary calcium, skeletal muscle wasting, primary or secondary hyperthyroidism, and chronic kidney disease can all be independent contributors to high serum PTH concentrations.27 The level of 25(OH)D that maximally suppresses parathyroid hormone blood levels is somewhere around 32 ng/mL for adults.28,29 A meta-analysis of available clinical trials indicates that vitamin D supplementation of 1000 IU per day can best suppress serum PTH levels.27
While many studies suggest extraskeletal benefits, overall the evidence does not strongly support the use of supplementation with vitamin D to address the myriad of diseases that have been linked to low serum 25(OH)D levels.30 At the same time, a systematic review of studies showed that supplementation using vitamin D3 alone (but not D2) reduced all-cause mortality by 11 percent.31 Being deficient in vitamin D is not good for oneās health, but in the medical community the jury is out on whether levels above those needed for bone health offer clear benefits.
MISSING PIECES OF THE PUZZLE
Any student who has taken an introductory nutrition course learned that the fat-soluble vitamins, and especially vitamins A and D, can produce toxicity at high levels of intakes. The IOM has set the Tolerable Upper Intake Level for vitamin D at 4,000 IU per day for adults,5 identical to the amount the Geriatric Society generally recommends to support seniorsā bone and muscle strength.8 The Vitamin D Council states that toxicity is highly unlikely until intakes are above 10,000 IU per day for several months.32 Why do the expert opinions vary, and what risks might there be for higher-dose vitamin D supplementation?
Becoming acutely toxic from vitamin D is thought to be extremely difficult, identified by a marked elevation of 25(OH)D levels (> 150 ng/mL) in conjunction with elevated blood calcium and high normal or elevated serum phosphorus, and clinically accompanied by symptoms such as constipation, confusion, fatigue, and increased thirst and urination.33 When levels exceed 600 ng/mL symptoms progress to pain, anorexia, fever, chills, vomiting and weight loss, requiring complete avoidance of sun exposure and many months to resolve.34 With chronic vitamin D excess, levels above 50-60 ng/mL rarely raise blood calcium, yet an early indicator is a substantially increased risk for kidney stones, and over time heart disease risk also increases.35 In animal models bone loss and blood vessel calcification or āhardeningā are the key pathologies. Toxicity is heightened by a rich dietary supply of calcium and phosphorus, so removal of dietary calcium is important. Conversely, toxicity is reduced by high intakes of vitamin A.36 Moderate sun exposure is much less likely to lead to toxicity because excess vitamin D3 is photodegraded into products that have no calcemic activity.37 On the other hand, excessive sun exposure has been linked to a twenty-fold increase in kidney stones.38
Dr. Priceās detailed observations give us solid clues as to why the results of modern-day studies do not support the practice of supplementation of high doses of vitamin D alone. The trio of fat-soluble vitamins A, D and K2 (Priceās x-factor) are best derived from nourishing foods where they occur in natural balance, along with sensible sun exposure. The dietary wisdom of native peoples far surpasses that of modern medicine. Most doctors, dietitians and nutritionists are unfortunately still unaware that vitamins A, D and K2 work together to produce and activate proteins that direct calcium to the bones and away from soft tissues, one of their many vital and varied roles in the body.
Additional clues surfaced around the middle of the 20th century when researchers demonstrated that vitamin A and vitamin D when administered together were substantially more effective at protecting against infections like colds than when given alone,39 and that even very high doses of both over a course of three years did not result in toxic effects when administered together. Furthermore, even modest amounts of vitamin D have been shown to deplete vitamin A, whether provided by sunlight or injection.40
In a 2006 paper published in Medical Hypothesis,41 Chris Masterjohn, PhD, explains how it is likely that vitamin D will exert toxic effects when vitamin K and vitamin A are in short supply. It is known that higher intakes of vitamin D lead to āhypervitaminosis D,ā causing lethargy, growth retardation, bone resorption and soft tissue calcification, as observed in animal studies. While elevated levels of blood calcium are considered the hallmark cause of the toxic effects of too much vitamin D,42 Masterjohn points out that these adverse effects can occur in the absence of elevated blood calcium. He proposes that vitamin Dās toxic effect is primarily the result of higher levels leading to a deficiency of vitamin K and postulates that patients can be given higher doses of vitamin D, potentially offering greater therapeutic value, by administering vitamins A, D and K simultaneously.41 It is hoped that future studies will evaluate their interactions, in order to better treat patients, and support public health efforts, as recently proposed by the Weston A. Price Foundation to the National Institutes of Health43 as the agency considers the Strategic Nutrition Research Agenda.
As stated before, more up-to-date practitioners are now giving patients vitamin K2 along with vitamin D, and several supplement manufacturers have developed formulations that combine both D and K2, but no A. One company, Allergy Research Corporation, does make a supplement containing vitamins A, D and K2. Time-tested cod liver oil containing natural vitamins along with nourishing traditional foods is still ideal, due to the known presence of other naturally-occurring nutrients, along with those that we have yet to understand.
MANAGING VITAMIN D
Do we need to closely manage serum 25(OH)D levels? How should we supplement if we donāt test? As stated earlier, ordering vitamin D blood testing has become fairly routine. In my experience, follow-up testing may also be done after vitamin D supplementation is prescribed. But are these tests needed, and if so, how often?
I am actually in favor of doing baseline vitamin D testing for many patients in an effort to confirm suspicions that they could be grossly deficient in vitamin D; or conversely, taking too much supplemental vitamin D, which is not uncommon. After a moderate course of supplementation with 1,000-2,000 IU per day, or the complete discontinuance of vitamin D in some cases, retesting after six to twelve months may determine whether the patient is on target, with blood levels of 25(OH)D somewhere between 30 and 50 ng/ml, lower in winter, higher in summer. Tests are not without limitations (see sidebar, page 36)āif we supplement too aggressively we may āovershootā ideal levels of vitamin D or unknowingly cause adipose stores to rise to excessive levels. As we have seen, blood levels may not necessarily reflect the bodyās total vitamin D stores or status.
Dr. Alan Gaby, author of āNutritional Medicineā52 warns that the safety and efficacy of long term vitamin D supplementation with more than 2,000 IU per day for the purpose of achieving a target 25(OH)D level has not been established. Dr. Pamela Lutsey, lead researcher for a recent study on vitamin D supplementation, concurs that higher intakes can be dangerous leading to the overabsorption of calcium and subsequent deposition in soft tissue such as the heart and kidneys.3,4 In the shorter term, amounts over 2,000 appear to be reasonable. If a practitioner decides to forgo vitamin D testing, a safe and effective daily dose of vitamin D is likely between 800 and 1,200 IU. Individuals who are supplementing on their own are cautioned not to exceed that, especially if sun exposure is habitual or if fortified foods are consumed.
These approaches represent a medicalized approach to nutrient sufficiency, applicable in some cases. However, a more safe, effective and sustainable approach would be one that considers the full trio of fat-soluble vitamins and how they work synergistically together, both to support each otherās functions and protect from the risk of toxicity. Eating an array of delicious, nourishing foods that lead to a natural balance of vitamin D with its partners, vitamins A and K2, and getting outdoors on a regular basis are good for our mental and physical health. Our diets should include a range of pastured animal foods and wild seafoods: egg yolks, butter and cheese, organ meats, whole fish and shellfish, and animal fats such as lard; like us, animals obtain vitamin D from the sun and store it in their bodies and in their fat. The addition of a high-vitamin cod liver oil is highly recommended too. This will remove the need for repeated vitamin D testing and eliminate all worry of potential toxicity from too much vitamin D. By following the wisdom of our ancestors, our quest for optimal health can be risk-free.
SIDEBARS
MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
My introduction to the importance of vitamin D came at my first Wise Traditions conference in 2001 where I learned about Dr. Weston A. Priceās research, which clearly demonstrates the unsurpassed value of nourishing traditional diets for reproduction, growth and health at all stages of life. The conference focused on the vital importance of all of the fat-soluble vitamins, not just vitamin D alone, but in conjunction with vitamin A and Dr. Priceās āx-factor,ā subsequently identified in 2008 by Chris Masterjohn as vitamin K2.1 One of Priceās key findings strongly resonated with me: the quantity of fat-soluble vitamins in traditional diets was ten times higher than that of typical American diets. I knew this was a missing piece in what I thought was my āhealthyā semi-vegetarian diet.
I immediately began to add cod liver oil to my and my familyās diet, along with full-fat raw dairy, pastured eggs and liver pĆ¢tĆ©, excellent sources of all four fat-soluble vitamins, A, D and K2. Having always enjoyed beef liver and onions as a child, this was a welcome addition to my own diet. I feel immensely grateful that I did not just start supplementing with vitamin D alone, as I had recently learned that I am genetically a very poor converter of carotenes to true vitamin A, not an uncommon trait in people of my ancestry. In a short period of time, we noticed improvements in our health: freedom from colds and infections like strep throat, clearer skin for my teenagers, and for me, resolution of my chronically dry eyes. Through membership in the Weston A. Price Foundation, I continued to learn much more about the roles of the fat-soluble vitamins, information not available through educational materials directed to registered dietitians or functional medical practitioners. In 2016, concerned about the widespread problem of inadequate intakes among women, I wrote on the necessity of vitamin A before, during and after pregnancy.2
My own health care providers now routinely order vitamin D testing. My two most recent results were exactly the same, 37 ng/mL, yet the two nurse practitioners who had ordered them had very different interpretations. One said āyour vitamin D is way too low;ā the second made no comment, which generally indicates that the results are āunremarkable,ā or not of concern. Interpretation of vitamin D test results is still quite variable among practitioners. Never have I had a doctor or nurse ask about vitamin A or K2 intake or levels, not atypical in medical practice.
My vitamin D levels over the past several years have ranged between the mid-30s and mid-50s, lower in winter, higher at the end of the summer. The results of a baseline bone mass density scan I had in 2007 were well above the meanāmy doctor ordered it because she thought I would be at higher risk for osteoporosis since I am small-boned, relatively thin and Caucasian. I feel good about what I have been doing for the past seventeen-plus years: reasonable sun exposure, foods rich in vitamins A, D and K2, raw and fermented dairy to ensure I am getting easily-absorbed sources of calcium on a daily basis, bone broth for collagen and minerals, and tapering off of supplements containing vitamin D as summer approaches.
1. https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/on-the-trail-of-the-elusive-x-factor-a-sixty-two-year-old-mystery-finally-solved/
2. Vitamin A: The Scarlet Nutrient. The Unfair Stigmatization of Vitamin A during Pregnancy. https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-the-scarlet-nutrient/.
D2 vs. D3?
Some doctors prescribe vitamin D2, others recommend an over-the-counter supplement that contains vitamin D3. What is the difference? Vitamin D2 is the plant form, ergosterol, found in foods like mushrooms. Vitamin D3 is the animal form, cholecalciferol, made in our skin but also available from animal fats. The pharmacokinetic properties of vitamins D2 and D3 differ, with more consistent and higher serum concentrations of 25(OH)D after vitamin D3 supplementation. Clinicians are advised to recommend vitamin D3 supplementation at intervals of four months or less. Longer intervals between doses of vitamin D2 will result in large fluctuations of serum 25(OH)D concentrations (due to more rapid metabolic degradation via 24-hydroxlation and a lesser affinity to the vitamin D-binding protein1), therefore the dosing interval with vitamin D2 is should not exceed fourteen days. The term ācalciferolā on a preparation refers to vitamin D2 and ācholecalciferolā to vitamin D3.
While the use of vitamin D3 is generally preferred, a 2013 JAMA study found that many of the over-the-counter vitamin D3 supplements on the market do not contain the amount the label indicates, with the authors more concerned about the fact that they provided too little rather than too much D3. In any case, only trusted sources should be used if vitamin D is supplemented in isolation.
If your choice for a vitamin D source is a fermented cod liver oil, keep in mind that all natural cod liver oils contain an array of different metabolites derived from vitamin D3, with a diverse array of biological activities. While magnetic resonance analysis seems to indicate the presence of vitamin D2, it is likely a mixture of these metabolites. Furthermore, the benefits of natural cod liver oil are often realized without a marked rise in serum 25(OH)D. Masterjohn cautions that this blood test is not only being overused as an indicator of vitamin D nutritional status, but is ābeing used in an overly simplistic manner.ā4
1. Zerwekh JE. Blood biomarkers of vitamin D status. Am J Clin Nutr. 2008;87:1087S-91S.
2. American Geriatrics Society Workgroup on Vitamin D Supplementation for Older Adults. Am Geriatr 2014; 62:147ā152.
3. http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/news/20130211/vitamin-d-supplements-is-what-you-see-what-you-get#1
4. https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/cod-liver-oil/vitamin-d-in-cod-liver-oil/.
VITAMIN D FROM SUNLIGHT
Masterjohn has described the practices of healthy pre-industrial societies regarding sun exposure including seeking shade in the midday and using a variety of methods to protect the skin when in the sun, such as primitive forms of sunscreen like coconut oil, body paint and protective clothing. He has also discussed findings which indicate that genetic adaptations direct an increased synthesis of vitamin D in northern indigenous populations, and conversely, an increased degradation of vitamin D in southerly populations.
Indigenous populations are innately adapted to their native climate, allowing their bodies to better control vitamin D production in accordance with their needs. Furthermore, his analysis of the evidence indicates that it does not support the conclusion that levels of 40-60 ng/mL for vitamin D are ānatural;ā people outside of tropical and subtropical regions may not be genetically adapted to having vitamin D levels so high.
SOURCE: http://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/cmasterjohn/vitamin-d-problems-with-the-latitude-hypothesis/.
VITAMIN D DAILY INTAKE GUIDELINES
INSTITUTE OF MEDICINE: Recommended Dietary Allowance1,2,3
(meets needs of 97.5% population, assumes minimal or no sun exposure)
Adult 600 ā 800 IU (age-dependent); Tolerable Upper Intake Level: 4,000 IU
Child 400 ā 600 IU (age-dependent); Tolerable Upper Intake Level: 1,000 ā 4,000 IU
The 4,000 Upper Level still includes a large safety margin, at least based on acute toxicity symptoms of hypercalcemia.4
Based on IOM guidelines, the CDC estimates 8 percent of Americans are deficient in vitamin D, and another 24 percent have inadequate vitamin D levels.2
ENDOCRINE SOCIETY: Daily dose (minimum) needed to raise above baseline of 30 ng/mL5
Adult 1,500-2,000 IU
Child 1,000 IU
AMERICAN GERIATRIC SOCIETY6
Adult at least 1,000 IU, majority of older adults require 4,000 IU (diet and oral)
NATIONAL OSTEOPOROSIS FOUNDATION7
Adult 18-49 years 400-800 IU
Adult 50 years and older 800-1,000 IU
VITAMIN D COUNCIL: Daily dose needed to raise from 25 to 50 ng/mL8
Adult (150 lbs.) 3,700 IU
Toxicity possible if taking more than 10,000 IU per day for 3 months or longer.
1. Dietary Reference Intakes for Calcium and Vitamin D. Available at: http://www.nationalacademies.org/hmd/~/media/Files/Report%20Files/2010/Dietary-Reference-Intakes-for-Calcium-and-Vitamin-D/Vitamin%20D%20and%20Calcium%202010%20Report%20Brief.pdf
2. In 2011, the IOM updated their vitamin D guidelines based on ānearly 1,000 published studies as well as testimony from scientists and stakeholders.ā Noting the existence of many studies on vitamin D’s benefits, āsuch as protection against cancer, heart disease, autoimmune diseases, and diabetes,ā they judged that only the evidence on bone health was strong enough to base vitamin D recommendations on. http://www.livescience.com/42481-vitamin-d-supplement-facts.html
3. Due to āemerging concerns about elevated 25(OH)D, the IOM has shifted the paradigm from thinking about āmore is betterā to a more risk-averse approach. Because adverse effects of vitamin D supplementation may take decades to be realized, clinicians (mindful of the medical ethics precept āFirst, do no harmā) should err on the side of caution; follow the IOM guideline and wait for the results of long-term vitamin D studies.ā Mangin M, Sinha R, Fincher K. Inflammation and vitamin D: the infection connection. Inflamm Res. 2014; 63(10): 803ā819.
4. Jones, G. Vitamin D. In Ross AC et al editors. Modern Nutrition in Health and Disease, 11th ed. Philadelphia: Lippincott, Williams & Wilkins; 2014.
5. Holick B et al. Evaluation, treatment, and prevention of vitamin D deficiency: an Endocrine Society clinical practice guideline. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2011;96:1911-1930.
6. American Geriatrics Society Workgroup on Vitamin D Supplementation for Older Adults. J Am Geriatr Soc. 2014;62:147ā152.
7. Cosman F et al. Clinician’s Guide to Prevention and Treatment of Osteoporosis. Osteoporos Int. 2014;25(10):2359-81.
8. www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/?-am-i-getting-too-much-vitamin-d/
ARE VITAMIN D TESTS RELIABLE?
Can we be confident that our 25(OH)D test results represent what is going on in the body?
In this article we have made a broad assumption, namely that we can and should rely on the 25(OH)D blood test to accurately reflect the bodyās level of circulating vitamin D, then use this to make a personal or clinical decision on how much vitamin D to supplement, or whether to increase the consumption of vitamin-D rich foods or time spent in the sun. In many cases, this assumption is likely a good one. However, exceptions have been found in individuals who have obesity, certain genetic variations, and/or acute or chronic inflammatory disease, raising questions on the broad applicability of the 25(OH)D test. In addition, some of the laboratory protocols used to test vitamin D have inherent limitations.
The blood test for 25(OH)D measures only the hydroxylated forms of vitamin D3 and D2 that circulate in the bloodstream. While considered the best test for vitamin D, is it a reliable indicator of whole body vitamin D status? Unfortunately, not always. It does not measure the amount of vitamin D itself (in the non-hydroxylated form) that is stored in the body fat, which for some people may be considerable. Obese persons have lower blood levels of vitamin D, yet at the same time can have considerable quantities stored in their body fat. For example, one study found after taking a supplement of 20,000 IU of vitamin D3 once per week for 3-5 years, serum 25(OH)D was 39.6 ng/mL versus 24.8 ng/mL in the placebo group, but abdominal fat contained 209 ng/g of vitamin D3 versus 32 ng/g in placebo group. Assuming that the 209 ng/g concentration was the same in all body fat, the supplemented group had an average of 264,000 IU stored vitamin D in their bodies.44 Whether this presents a problem is unknown, but there is the potential for stored vitamin D to be released during even modest weight loss.22
GENETIC VARIATION
Serum 25(OH)D levels are influenced by a number of genes that govern the vitamin D binding and receptor proteins and the enzymes that hydroxylate vitamin D. Increases in serum 25(OH)D with vitamin D supplementation vary according to common differences (polymorphisms) in these genes, with potential implications for vitamin D-related health outcomes.45 The differences in 25(OH)D levels attributed to polymorphisms has been estimated to range from 23 to 77 percent, rivaling differences due to sun avoidance, and may be related to the season of the year.46 This is an emerging area of research, but it appears that in those affected, serum 25(OH)D may actually āoverestimateā actual vitamin D intakes from food or sunlight.10
INFLAMMATION AND INFECTION
Multiple observational studies have reported a correlation of vitamin D deficiency with inflammation and inflammatory diseases, however cause and effect has yet to be conclusively demonstrated for the majority of these relationships. For example, a review of several clinical trials of vitamin D supplementation with overweight or obese individuals found no overall improvement in inflammatory markers.47 Evidence has emerged to suggest another hypothesisāthat low 25(OH)D is a result of the chronic disease process, provoked by a chronic bacterial infection.48
LABORATORY TEST VARIABILITY
Between different laboratories, substantial variations in results for serum 25(OH)D have been reported.49 The Office of Dietary Supplements of the National Institutes of Health has instituted the Vitamin D Standardization Program (VDSP), a collaborative venture of several governmental and non-governmental organizations, to address this problem.50 It has been suggested that the preferred assay is mass spectrometry for a number of reasons, but costs and high levels of expertise required are barriers to its availability. In the future, the CDC plans to post on their website a list of laboratories that meet the VDSP certification standards.
INTERFERING COMPOUNDS
Many of the commonly available 25(OH)D laboratory tests are unable to distinguish true 25(OH)D from related forms called epimers and isobars. In some individuals, especially those with autoimmune diseases, there can be relatively high amounts of these forms leading to a high degree of uncertainty on what is actually being measured by the blood test.51
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Jim Taylor says
Most everyone is difficient in Vitamin D unless you live close to the equator I recommend
you get your vitamin D tested and look at this website http://www.grassrootshealth.org
Pamela Schoenfeld says
Hi Jim,
I would agree that many people are deficient in vitamin D, however, this does not mean that all are or that taking large amounts of supplemental vitamin D is the answer. I would agree with an individual getting tested, but not with the practice of aiming for the high end of the reference range through supplementation.
Anke says
Hi Pamela
Thank you for this through article! I have a different type of question and that is – if excessive MK7 (200mg) could lead to Vit D depletion!
I am eating WAPF, taking my cod liver oil etc so my fat soluble Vit are all dialed in from raw milk and liver and raw pastured yolks, as well!
But my serum OH is a great 68 and my active 1-25 is only 26. My PTH is a fab 16 and ionized calcium is 5.1. I don’t supplement w Vit D. I do have a triple SNP (gene mutation) where I have trouble activating serum D to active D! I am living in FL and do get regular sun exposure but I can’t seem to understand why my active is so low vs my serum Vit D levels!
Now I start to wonder since you mentioned that excessive Vit D could deplete Vit A or K2 stores, how about additional K2 as a supplement, could that possibly deplete Vit D as well?
I do supplement bc K2 is so sacre in our food supply and Sarah Pope seems to recommend to take an additional K2 as a safe guard!
My diet however is high quality, free range and truly pastured foods and I might just overpolicy my nutrient needs, lol!
So just curious what you might think in regards to supplemental K2 to an otherwise nutrient rich diet and if excess K2 very well hinder activation of D.
Thank you, your article was a joy to read!
Fred Glass says
Hello, Anke, love your remark that you might “overpolicy your nutritional needs”,
I may sometimes be doing it myself. I think our analytic knowledge of biology is still too scant to comprehend the complexity of health and diet and all the individual physiologic/metabolic differences between us. May always be the case. None the less I am content to be guided by my observations and how I feel and not get in a tizzy about what I cannot know.
Over the last decade, I have been enjoying a lot of sun in addition to supplementing with Bio Tech’s 5000 D3 capsules. Can’t remember when I last came down with a cold or the flue. Whenever felt a scratchy throat popped a capsule and like switching a light it went away within a half hour.
Fred Glass
Anke says
Hi Fred,
thank you for your reply! I have also not been sick or coming down w a cold or flu (knock on wood) for over a decade, I think it is. Its been so long, I truly don’t remember. And that is a very good thing. Go WAPF!!!
Just after placing my question, I was reading an article about the Thrive Probiotics and their K2 supplement and their dosage is actually more like 320mg per serving. That is far more than what I was supplementing with. They do however add zinc, boron and magnesium to the K2, as that seams to increase biovailability, so they say.
I feel better now and without knowing, I actually had started to make myself a solution of Boron, from Borax, just what Sally Fallon seems to do, I do take regular Epson Salt baths for magnesium and I eat Oysters quite (too) often, to get my zinc! Looks like, that many suggest to take a higher dose of K2.
Anyhow, thank you for answering my question. I try to get my nutrients from foods, but some supplements sound pretty promising. Probably just overthinking a lot of stuff, lol.
Pamela Schoenfeld says
Hi Anke,
I doubt you are overconsuming vitamin K2 – consider the Japanese who eat natto that contains over 1000 mcg of Mk-7 in a typical serving. In any case, my understanding of how K2 works is that it carboxylates/activates the proteins that A&D regulate the production of, don’t think it can “use up” D or A in any case.
The Thrive K2 product contains an optimal amount for those whose diets don’t include pastured egg yolks, fermented foods and raw milk cheeses. I don’t think you need the mag, zinc, and boron in the supplement necessarily, just in your overall diet which sounds like you do!
The proof is in the pudding – you don’t get sick – but if you want another way of evaluating your K2 status, consider coronary artery calcium scoring (exposes you to radiation though) and I Chris Masterjohn mentioned at Wise Traditions 2017 that there was a K2 blood test being developed.
Glad you enjoyed my article. Thanks for sharing this!
Pamela A Schoenfeld says
Hi Anke, not sure K2 in excess could deplete vitamin D, your situation is complex and beyond the scope of a casual comment in reply.
However, excess K2 is not a great idea either, I believe it does reduce the amount of vitamin E that can be absorbed. Maybe drop to 100 mcg of K2 daily?
Kate says
Hi Pamela. I am in such a bad dietary place right now. I am breastfeeding my 15mo daughter who has allergy to milk, eggs and soya (K2) and fish or any seafood makes me ill; I was diagnosed with coeliac disease shortly after her birth. We started to follow WAPF diet apart from those foods and we started to supplement with FCLO because her teeth have very weak enamel. I am thinking about supplementing K2 and probably D as well as there are not many sources in our diets. I was thinking about getting on top of FCLO around 400IU of D by supplement and 100IU of K2 (Chris Masterjohn recommends 200IU and we also use butter oil/ghee/emu oil/fermented veggie) and we have daily around ounce of livers (5000IU of A). Do you think it could be dangerous for us in a name of getting opposite result than I hope for (getting her teeth crumble slower)? Or should I make some changes to it? Supplements seem only way for us right now, I am trying to learn to eat seafood but it is a slow process. Thanks for your tips in advance.
Pamela Schoenfeld says
Hi Kate,
Sounds like you have a well-thought-out plan. How are your daughter’s teeth doing now?
Sorry for my late response, but I don’t check back as often as I should!
Pam
DrJim says
Most important is @ 10:1 balance-ratio of A-complex to D-complex. I read-write a great deal daily & it sucks away my A-complex (sore-watery-tired-red eyes, fatigue). This was a serious oroblem for years ’til I finally figured out the A-complex connection & so I use FCLO, and also Extra A+ by Nutritional Resoures 800.978.8808. A 5000iu D3 balances one cap of Extra A+. I use 100mg K2 with that from Swanson (3xNattozymes swu326, K2, swu672). So I can read & write away with ease.
DrJim says
Also crucial to this working is E-complex. I use one softgel Swanson Ultra E with tocotrienols swu1641 (soy oil!). This greatly conserves & protects all nutrients besides it’s glandular support.
Also crucial to anything working at all is lots of bone broth or/and organic gelatin for gut healing. This really feels good deep inside. All my life i’ve loved the fat & gelatin of meats dishes but never focused on it ’til lately – even after my discovery of WAPF in 2000.
Also adding some nutritional yeast pwd (B-complex) & wheat germ (E-complex).
And I use sprouted brown basmati rice (Lundberg) – but it’s so costly I just sprout my own brown basmati mostly. The nutritional yeast has such a rich flavor! The basmati makes the house smell fabulous but the flavor is not in the rice so I add some nutritional yeast to it after cooking to restore that amazing flavor.
Also I make purple rice by adding some fine dulse flakes to the water. And gold rice by adding some tumeric to the water. I cook the rice at least 30 min. in 1/2 more water with some fat. Then turn the heat off & let it set 30min.
I have potatoes when i’m tired of rice. I mix them also.
Extra iodine will be needed. Nori sheets are toasted & taste good. 5% Lugols is imporant to thyroid & all cells in today’s toxic world. See Brownstein & Farrow on this.
Ted Hu says
Recently came across the Marshall protocol which asserts vitamin D actually interferes and down modulates activity of VDR and in turn weakens immune response and autoimmune issues.
They recommend lowering D to under 12 ng/ml and using a prodrug to stimulate the VDR, in attempts to reset and reactivate it.
From an evolutionary basis, itās fair to ask how humans lived without D supplements, and as such, lends doubt to high dose levels which may or may not be activated.
Pamela says
Hi Ted,
I am somewhat familiar with the Marshall protocol, but I don’t think it has population-wide application. Certainly may be an approach to use in certain clinical situations, but not something that is in my scope of practice as a dietitian/nutritionist. Thank you for your comment!
Chris Drozier says
I looked into the Marshall protocol myself and finally (as a scientist) concluded it was a TERRIBLE idea based on theories that were never proven.
For some reason it may help some people BUT it’s unlikely you are 1 of them and lowering vit D under 12 puts you at risk of MAJOR health problems and early death+ in the long range.
Humans evolved without much clothing on and thus getting lots of D from sun exposure. It takes 3 months for blood D levels to drop (or rise with supplements) and probably more for fat levels so they could easily pass Winter and replenish in Spring + Summer.
Zorbathebuddha says
Hi i was wondering i live in canada and i have doubts to the production of vitamin d even in the summer on our skin, what do you guys think? Do you think that one needs to be closer to the equater to actually produce vitamin d via the sun???
Pamela Schoenfeld says
I think the human skin can make some vitamin D, but not sure how much less would be produced. What latitude are you in?
Sharon says
Iāve been taking fermented cod liver oil for years. This year, maybe longer, Iāve been taking about 2.5 teaspoons per day as I have RA (well managed with WAP diet!!), and have been trying to get pregnant for some time. My level was 19, and my practitioner said that Iām just not absorbing whatās in the FCLO. She said I needed to take it with Vitamin K, and I told her I take it with plenty of grass-fed butter. She said thereās not enough K in there and that I needed to take it with my smoothie, in which I put plenty of green leafy veggies. I donāt believe her theory is right, but I tried it. Iām back to taking my FCLO with my buttered eggs in the mornings because I just feel that is the right thing to do. She had told me to take 5000 IU of vitamin D3/day. I now feel a little uneasy about this since reading your article. I bought liposomal D3 plus K2. I also asked her about the accuracy of the blood tests…is it possible I am metabolizing it so well that my blood levels appear low? She said, āNo.ā
I live on an island in the USA Southern states, and especially now that it is warmer I get regular sun exposure. I was going out every day in the winter months but it was too cold to expose anything other than my hands and face.
Is the amount of D3 (5000 IU) that I take ok considering I take it with lots of FCLO (2.5 tsp), plenty of good butter, pastured eggs, and my supplement includes K2 (100mcg)?
Mary Stroupe says
My vitamin D has tested below 20 for at least three years. I’ve been taking good cod liver oil with butter oil for 2 1/2 years. I live in Georgia and am outside a lot without sunscreen. Should I increase my cod liver oil consumption or take a vitamin D supplement?
Thank you for all your articles in Wise Traditions.