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FROM HEART ATTACK TO HEALTHY: THE POWER OF STRUCTURED WATER IN THE BODY

Interview With Dr. Stephen Hussey

HILDA LABRADA GORE: Structured water is critical to good health. But what is it? How do we get more of it in the body? Can it help us detox from disruptive ingredients in Covid shots and other injections? And can it prevent or help us heal after heart attacks? Dr. Stephen Hussey, author of several books (Understanding the Heart,¹ The Health Evolution² and Pain Sense³) did a deep dive into what caused his own heart attack at age thirty-four and is convinced that structured water has everything to do with shor­ing up and safeguarding our health. Stephen, let’s begin by talking about your heart attack.

STEPHEN HUSSEY: I’ll start with my history. I’m a type-1 diabetic and have been since I was nine years old. That heavily predisposed me to heart disease, which is what I’ve been told my entire life by various doctors. I was always curi­ous about why that would be and tried to learn about it, but I didn’t learn much from medical doctors.

Since college, I was very good at control­ling diet and exercise because those are things I could control. However, during Covid, I went through probably the most stressful time of my life. There were a lot of things happening that were frustrating to me. Then, I got some very stressful news about a close family member a day and a half before I had the heart attack. It wasn’t just the news itself, but it was the inability of me or my family to do anything to help this person. We were just sitting around waiting and hoping that it was going to be okay. (In the long run, it was okay.) I got that news on a Sunday night. Monday, all of that was on my mind. On Tuesday morning, I woke up and, unwisely, tried to do a very intense workout. At the time, I would sprint up a hill, drop into push-ups and do lunges until I failed. Twenty minutes later, I started having a heart attack.

In addition to the stress and that work­out—which was the straw that broke the camel’s back—there were other things at play. I was dehydrated based on the way I was eating and not replacing fluid and electrolytes. There may have been some oxalate dumping going on based on where I was with my diet at that time. Look­ing back, there were oxalates in my urine upon testing. It was kind of a “planets aligned” thing. However, the interesting thing is that six months before my heart attack, I had a coronary calcium scan (CAC) score of zero, which means no calci­fied plaque in my arteries. On the angiogram, when they placed the stent (and I could argue that they may not have needed to do that, but they saved my life and I’m grateful that I’m still here), they found no atherosclerosis anywhere in my coronary arteries—just a “ginormous” clot.

HG: Was this the impetus for your writing Un­derstanding the Heart?

SH: I had already started writing the book—and everything that I’ve written in the book I still agree with today—but I was able to include this story and my treatment in the hospital and all this stuff because of that. I was seeing the heart attack as a bad thing, because it was and I wish it hadn’t happened, but it made me dive even deeper into this topic. I’ve discovered a ton since the heart attack and even since writing the book. I could probably make that book 50 percent longer now. I’ve discovered so many things that further the argument in the book.

One of the best things that has happened since then is that I have had many people reach out to me who have been through (or are scared of going through) the same thing. They’ll say, “I want to talk to someone who’s been through it because I just get the same repetitive answers from my doctor about pharma and everything.” It’s almost become something that has allowed me to reach other people and help them.

HG: Tell us a little bit about the relationship of structured water to the heart. You’ve written that a lack of structured water in the vascular system is related to heart attacks. Can you explain that?

SH: Structured water is everywhere in the body. It’s what we’re made of. That’s why the tissue in my forearm feels like a gel and not like liquid water. It doesn’t feel like a waterbed. Structured water forms on the lin­ing of the artery.

There are lots of different components of heart disease, but the main ones that people talk about are vascular disease, atherosclerosis and plaque formation. When we look at what that is, it’s clotting tissue. Clotting tissue is what atherosclerosis is. Anything like scar tissue—you cut your skin and a scab forms—that’s clotting tissue. When you analyze atherosclerosis, according to some studies, it’s about 87 percent clotting tissue. Very little cholesterol is present. There’s a bunch of scar tissue there. That happens because if we damage the lining of the artery and the body can’t repair it or it’s excessively damaged, the body has to do something to stop the artery from being damaged or else it’s going to rupture and create a bleed. So, it deposits this scar tissue, just like when you cut your skin and a scab forms. That’s what atherosclerosis is.

To me, this whole chasing-down cholesterol thing is a wild goose chase. In reality, we should be asking “What is clotting?” and “What creates clotting?” Rudolf Virchow found that out in 1856. He concluded that three things [called “Virchow’s triad”⁴] create clotting: damage to the lining of the artery, poor or stagnant blood flow (or interrupted blood flow) and elements of the blood being too sticky—that is, sticking together too much. Those are the things we should be paying attention to.

If we want to prevent clotting, how do we stop those things from happening? It turns out that structured water helps us do all those things. There are lots of different names for structured water (“fourth-phase” water, “exclusion zone” water or “bound” water) because lots of different scientists have come across it at different times, but it has some unique properties. One is that it forms on water-loving surfaces, and all biological surfaces are water-loving. When we have water, a biological surface and energy to the water, it will structure itself into this gel. That happens on the lining of the artery. They’ve shown that in Dr. Gerald Pollack’s lab. The reason they call it an “exclusion zone” is because nothing can really penetrate it; it’s this almost impenetrable barrier. The only things that can penetrate it are small hydrated ions of minerals. If we have intact structured water there, it’s a barrier that protects the lining of the artery. That’s number one in Virchow’s triad—protect the lining of the artery.

HG: When we interviewed Dr. Pollack on this subject, we learned that this is a different form of water. We may have learned in science class that water is always a gas, liquid or solid, but Dr. Pollack discusses a fourth phase that’s more gel-like. People always say, “The body is 60 percent water,” but as you point out, it’s not liquid—it’s in this other form, and this is a good thing.

SH: That gel is like jello or like bone broth when you put it in the fridge or like raw egg white. It’s kind of gelatinous. There are lots of different fascinating places in the body that it forms, but one is the lining of the arteries.

The second thing is that because of the way structured water forms and how it cleaves off one hydrogen, you’re left with an oxygen and hydrogen of water; those oxygens and hydrogens team up and form structured water. That makes the structured water very electronegative. The hydrogens that are cleaved off are right next to that. So, you have a positive and a negative area right next to each other—and that’s a battery. We all know that when we put batteries in some­thing, we have to align the positive and negative sides. That creates energy. Again, they’ve shown this in Dr. Pollack’s lab; you can put electrodes of a light bulb into the positive and negative side of the water and power the light bulb.

In a tube (like an artery, a vein, a lymphatic system, or wherever), this energy that’s created by the formation of structured water propels the fluid—because there is some liquid water in the body going—through the tube. They’ve shown that you don’t need a contracting heart to do this. This is how most of the liquid moves in arteries and in the lymphatics.

HG: That’s what Dr. Tom Cowan said in his book, Human Heart, Cosmic Heart: the heart is not a pump.⁵ This aligns with what you’re saying.

SH: That’s number two in Virchow’s triad: keep blood moving. Stop it from being stagnant and interrupted.

And the third thing is that the elements of blood—whether red blood cells, lipoproteins or whatever else is in the blood—are also biologi­cal surfaces. Structured water from the blood (because the blood is about half water) forms on those things as well. When it forms on those things, it gives those elements of blood some­thing called “zeta potential,” which is a negativecharge—because the structured water holds a negative charge. If you have two things that hold a negative charge around them and they get too close to each other, the negative charges repel each other so they stay evenly spaced in the blood. That prevents things in the blood from clumping. They’ve done interesting studies where they look at live-blood analysis on peo­ple, and they see that after people do grounding and things like that, the zeta potential increases and the red blood cells are evenly spaced. That’s number three in Virchow’s triad: keep things in blood from coagulating or sticking together.

If we build structured water in the body, it would prevent all the things that encourage clotting to happen in the vascular system. In my case, I got into a state where that stuff didn’t happen, or I had low amounts of structured wa­ter and then I did that workout. It created a lot of inflammation, because a workout is slightly in­flammatory, and a clot formed. The reason that it happens most commonly in coronary arteries is that they’re under the most pressure of any arteries, especially the left anterior descending arteries. If there are things that break down structured water, they get pushed up against the lining of the artery more. That’s why more atherosclerosis happens there and why heart attacks are more common than “liver attacks” or things like that. There are liver infarcs and kidney infarcs, but they’re much less common than heart infarcs.

HG: If people want to learn more about struc­tured water, they can check out the interviews we did with Dr. Gerald Pollack, and Tom Cowan has spoken about it at our conferences. I love the fact that the earth has energy which helps structure the water in our bodies in the proper way so that it can do all those good things. When I interviewed Tom, he said, “The best thing you can do for your health is walk on the beach barefoot, holding hands with a loved one,” and Pollack said something similar.

What does structured water have to do with the Covid shots?

SH: It’s not just the Covid shots. In my research for my next book, I was reading Gilbert Ling and some of his work on bound (structured) water in the cell. I noticed that he used polyethylene glycol (PEG) or ethylene glycol in some of the experiments that tested what would happen to a cell. Ethylene glycol helps things get into cells, and they didn’t know why.

Ling figured out that the reason it helps things get into cells is because it breaks down structured water. I found this very interest­ing that when he injected ethylene glycol into cells, at first he would find that the cell would shrink, which almost suggests more structured water being formed (because structured water is denser and more compact than liquid water). Very soon after that initial shrinking, how­ever, the cell started to expand, which meant structured water was being destroyed. Once it becomes liquid water again, the liquid water expands. It takes on a formation that looks like ice, but ice is less dense—that’s why it floats in water. Structured water is denser; it becomes more compact.

Ethylene glycol is one of the ingredients in some of the vaccines. It was polyethylene glycol, which, by definition, is just a string of ethylene glycol molecules.

HG: I’ve heard that PEG is found in ice cream.

SH: It’s found in a lot of different things, like various household products and foods, but in very small amounts. Here’s the problem: If you do a search on the Internet, they’ll say, “It’s not toxic in the amounts that you’re exposed to.” Based on the literature I found, it seems that when you ingest it, your body is pretty good at absorbing it and then filtering it out through the liver and kidneys and getting rid of it pretty effectively. However, if you bypass the body’s natural mechanisms of how we’re supposed to be exposed to things by injecting something right into the skin—especially in the levels in these injections—then that’s a prob­lem, because now the body’s natural protective mechanisms have been removed. And injection was the pathway of administration in this case.

HG: This key ingredient, PEG, is found in shots and may be the cause of clotting, myo- and pericarditis and high blood pressure. As you pointed out, it’s not just the Covid shots; other shots have this ingredient, too, is that right?

SH: It is the Covid shots, specifically, that have polyethylene glycol. What I’m saying is that there are other ingredients in other injections that are also known to destroy structured water or are seen as oxidative stress molecules. Structured water has a lot of electrons to donate, so if you put a lot of oxidative stress into something, that will break down structured water. But it’s the pathway of administration that’s the problem. It’s being directly injected into tissues.

The body has ways of protecting us. If we ingest something bad, we can get a lot of it out; even if too much would still be toxic, we can get some of it out. If we inject things right into the tissues, then those mechanisms don’t protect us.

HG: What are the titles of Gilbert Ling’s books?

SH: One is A Revolution in the Physiology of the Living Cell,⁶ and I think the one I was reading was Life at the Cell and Below-Cell Level.⁷

HG: If someone has gotten the Covid shot, are they likely to suffer issues related to PEG?

SH: PEG helps me explain a lot of the different adverse reactions that we saw reported with these injections. The reactions can happen immediately after the injection, or—when you understand the mechanisms—they can also happen further down the line if we don’t do things that help get rid of the polyethylene glycol once it’s there. Now, it’s in there having this effect, and let’s say we go through a stressful time in our life—perhaps we get some other toxin exposure or we don’t ground or get sunlight and those types of things—over time, PEG becomes a contributor that eventually predisposes us to these adverse reactions again.

It can happen maybe even years later if we don’t get rid of the polyeth­ylene glycol. Think about structured water and what it does and that it’s a battery and holds this negative charge. Every physiology student learns that our cells hold a net negative charge. They’re told that it’s because of big proteins in the cell or that there’s a concentration of chloride ions in the cell, but really, it’s because the cells are made of structured water and are holding that negative charge. However, if you inject something that breaks down that negative charge, then you lose the voltage in your cells. What’s been shown is that when voltage drops in cells, we get a histamine release, which is anaphylaxis if it goes body-wide, or it could be a local histamine reaction, which is the red­ness or swelling of a local site.

That’s what we see. People get injections with this stuff. They get a local inflamed reac­tion, or if it affects them systemically, they get anaphylaxis. What’s happened is the body’s voltage has dropped because we’ve injected something that destroys that voltage. That’s what anaphylaxis is. When you have an allergic reaction, whatever you’re responding to is drop­ping the voltage in your body.

HG: I’d love to get to some solutions, too. You’ve talked about a couple of ways in which we can handle PEG or other adverse chemicals and adjuvants that are in vaccines, such as getting our feet on the ground and getting sunlight. What else can we do to restructure the water in our bodies?

SH: Yes, that is the first step. When you’ve got something in there that’s destroying the struc­tured water and you want to give your body any chance of eventually getting rid of it, you have to build up the charge first. In some circles, they refer to this as “redox before you detox.” You have to build up your negative charge before your body can even think about getting rid of it. This means focusing on the things that build structured water.

First, we need to have the raw material. We need to have water. That water needs to be free of toxins because different toxins interfere with structured water formation. Specifically, in Dr. Pollack’s lab, they tested glyphosate. I think it was glyphosate that caused a five-fold decrease in structured water formation. It was either that or a wireless router. I can’t remember which was which, but they were both bad! Those two things interfere with structured water formation.

Second, grounding or putting your feet directly on the earth will build structured water.

Third, sunlight or infrared light is the most structuring to water. The far end of infrared (which is three thousand nanometers) is the most structuring, but near-infrared and red light, will all do it. Even blue light will do it but it needs to be balanced by other colors of light. It should never be on its own like these modern indoor light bulbs. Blue artificial light on its own becomes very damaging and can decrease the ability of structured water to form.

Fourth, even just moving your body is good—gentle stretching of the fascia, like yoga or just walking. When you gently stretch fas­cia, it creates a piezoelectric effect that creates electrons from that. Those electrons are used to build structured water.

Fifth, the heart is a vortex that spirals water and blood. Vortexing water in the presence of oxygen (the blood is always full of oxygen) will energize water so that it can structure itself in the body. There are things we can do to water to do that before we ingest it. The most low-tech way is to swirl it around in your glass. There are fancy devices and machines you can buy that will do it. You can put water in the sun or close to Earth’s electromagnetic field. Lots of different things will create this energy to water so that it more readily structures itself when it gets next to those biological surfaces in your body.

Finally, the last thing is mitochondrial health. People think, “Mitochondria make ATP.” They do indeed do that, but they also make in­frared heat, which is structuring to water. They make water itself, which is very important. We need healthy mitochondria to do those things. That comes from a whole-foods diet but also from sunlight and grounding and other things as well. Optimizing your circadian rhythm is very useful for mitochondrial health.

HG: Are the protocols you’ve mentioned for detoxing, too?

SH: Some of them will help with detoxing, especially grounding and infrared light. Sun­light is always best, but you could use infrared saunas and red light panels, too. Those things are helpful for getting fluid moving in the body like blood and also lymph, which is where we’re getting rid of toxins. The most important thing is circadian rhythm and sleep because your body cleans house and repairs at night. If we don’t have enough melatonin because our circadian rhythm and often our light environment are off, then that doesn’t happen very efficiently at night.

When our body gets the signal that the sun has set and it’s dark, then we get melatonin production. We also get melatonin production throughout the day from near-infrared exposure to the body from the mitochondria. When we get the signal, “no blue light,” we increase mela­tonin production. That not only tells you to go to sleep but also triggers lymphatic drainage, the repair of the gut lining and arterial lining, and mitophagy and autophagy that are supposed to happen every night to kill old cells and mitochondria in order to make new healthy ones. All this is supposed to happen at night while we’re sleeping, especially between the hours of midnight and 2:00. That’s when melatonin production is the highest. That is absolutely key.

I tell the story of someone who recovered from a Covid injection injury in an article that I wrote on my website. She was doing many things—taking all these supplements and trying everything—but it wasn’t until she started getting sunlight, grounding and optimizing cir­cadian rhythm that her body was finally able to charge up enough, and then have these detox processes happen and push that out. She started feeling better, and she’s back to living mostly a normal life according to her. It’s pretty amazing.

HG: When I was in Ethiopia’s Omo Valley, I saw indigenous people go­ing to sleep shortly after the sun went down and then waking up with the sunrise. Talk about having every cell in your body sync to nature and your natural circadian rhythm! Unfortunately, in developed countries, we are injuring ourselves on a cellular level. It’s nice to know that the simplest hacks are free and from ancestral traditions that we would do well to revisit.

SH: It also helps to understand that when people do get sick or injured by something like a Covid injection or something like that, even if it seems like it’s going on forever, if you look at the environment they’re in, that environment is what is keeping them in that state. It would be silly for life to have mechanisms where you stay like that forever if you’re injured. The issue is the environments that our modern world has created for us; that’s what is preventing us from being able to recover from most of these things. If we put ourselves in the right environment, then our body knows what to do. It gets rid of these things, and it heals itself and figures it out. We just have to change the environment.

HG: Devin Burke said, “If you’re stressed all day long, don’t expect to put your head on a pillow and fall asleep immediately.” From what you said about your heart attack, stress was a factor. We can’t use sleep as a detoxing mechanism if we’re anxious and working until the moment right before we go to bed.

SH: It’s all about the cortisol-melatonin balance. We see the sunrise, and the blue light comes above the sunrise; then it peaks, and then cortisol is supposed to go up. If we do things in the morning that spike cortisol too fast, for example, we see unnatural light first or we have coffee before having a satiating protein meal or something like that, then those things can spike cortisol higher. If we have a very stressful day, that spikes cortisol even higher. Then the sun starts to go down, and cortisol comes down, but because we did all these extra things, the spike comes down only so far. Then, melatonin starts to come up because we get darkness (or maybe we don’t get darkness and it doesn’t come up). Maybe we fall asleep because melatonin is higher, but at midnight or 2:00 AM when melatonin peaks, if cortisol is still high, we wake up, or we don’t get those cleansing detoxification mechanisms.

This lifestyle that’s pushing cortisol too high is messing with that cortisol-melatonin switch that’s supposed to happen. Cortisol is seen as this bad stress hormone thing, but it plays a role. It’s very healthy, but when it’s out of balance, it messes with melatonin. We’re doing things that raise too much cortisol and don’t produce enough melatonin. That’s the issue. Even if people are sleeping through the night, they may not be get­ting this deep restorative REM or deep sleep that they’re supposed to get.

HG: Dr. Jack Kruse often says, “You can’t heal in the environment that made you sick.” What about the person who got Covid boosters, too? Do they have any hope for detoxing?

SH: I think so, especially if they’ve gotten boosters and haven’t seen any major adverse reactions so far. That bodes well that your body is handling this burden pretty well. The solution involves doing the things that we’re talking about. Start these things as soon as you can so that you start get­ting rid of these things—because life is going to happen.

The analogy is like a bucket. Everybody has a bucket. When the bucket overflows, you start to get symptoms. Let’s say there was nothing in your bucket, and you got a Covid shot and all the boosters. Maybe the bucket is three-fourths full now because of those, but it’s not overflowing yet. You could encounter things in your life that make it overflow. You can do things now—even if you had no reactions—to decrease what’s in that bucket, to get rid of the injection ingredients and get rid of those things. It’s important for anybody who had these injections to start do­ing these things and start living this lifestyle, not only to prevent any adverse event from the polyethylene glycol or the polysorbate 80 that’s in there, but also to prevent all diseases in general. Take things out of your bucket. That’s huge.

HG: If the audience could do one thing to improve their health, what would you recommend that they do?

SH: Optimizing your circadian rhythm is the biggest thing. It not only does these mechanisms by which it helps us improve sleep and especially the amount of restorative sleep we get, it is also a major player in what’s called coherence. Having body coherence and heart coherence is huge for interbody communication and the ability of the body to encounter the world, handle it, have a healthy response to it and connect with the world—not just the person in front of you, but the people very far from you that you can’t even sense. Coherence is what’s connecting you to the field. The circadian rhythm is huge. There’s a reason that we have this natural day and night cycle. We should be wise to sync our bodies to that and be in touch with that.

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3. Hussey S. Pain Sense: Revolutionary Insights in Hu­man Physiology and How It Helps Us Understand and Eliminate Chronic Pain. Independently published, 2024.
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