Help! I Have High Cholesterol

The doctor looks you in the eye and says, “You have high cholesterol.” Now what? Statins are not the answer! Not by a long shot! Dr. Tom Cowan of the New Biology Clinic reminds us that there is no correlation between high cholesterol and heart attacks, heart disease, or early death. He sheds light on the HDL/LDL ratio questions and suggests that cholesterol tests, in the first place, do not provide helpful data in any case.

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Within the below transcript the bolded text is Hilda Labrada Gore and the regular text is Tom Cowan.

Maybe it’s happened to you. You meet with your doctor. They tell you that your cholesterol is high. Soon, acronyms HDL and LDL and ratios are swirling in your brain and you worry that you are headed for heart disease, a heart attack, or a stroke. This is Episode 481 and our guest is Dr. Tom Cowan. Tom is the author of Human Heart, Cosmic Heart and the Head of the New Biology Clinic. This conversation may help ease your heavy heart and anxiety related to cholesterol. Tom reassures us through evidence-based logic that there is no correlation between high cholesterol and heart attacks, heart disease, or early death. This is the second episode as part of a series on cholesterol.

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Welcome to Wise Traditions, Tom.

Thanks, Hilda. It’s good to see you again.

It’s good to see you as well. Many hear the words high cholesterol from their doctor and they go into a panic. Do high numbers indicate that they are in for a heart attack or a stroke? Should we be worried about these numbers?

No. If you want me to get more into it, I can.

Yes, please.

Do High Cholesterol Indicate For A Possible Heart Attack Or Stroke?

First of all, we should all be wary of being accused of being hypocrites, because we don’t want to do that. I’m going to do a webinar and people asked me to talk about my diet and my lifestyle. One of the things I’m going to bring up is I haven’t had a blood test since 1984 and I happen to know it was 1984 because that’s when I started residency.

To start residency, you had to have a blood test. I wouldn’t have done it then either. If I were to say that doing any blood tests, but in particular cholesterol, is relevant, somebody could accuse me of being a hypocrite because I haven’t done it. The reason I haven’t done it is because it’s a meaningless test so why would I do it? Essentially, screening blood tests, X-rays, mammograms, and colonoscopies, they’re all meaningless. if I thought they were meaningful, I would have done it and I haven’t.

You’re saying they’re meaningless, but they do give us data that indicates something is going on.

No. Let’s dissect that a little bit. By the way, science is about evaluating claims. I tell you, if there’s anything that I think people should remember from reading this, it’s that. It’s not about competing theories. Let me give you an example so you understand exactly what I mean. If you’re an eighteen-year-old Asian guy and your parents are Caucasian, then one day you’re rummaging through their closet and you find adoption papers and it proves that you were adopted from your parents and that clears up why you look different.

Wise Traditions | Tom Cowan | High Cholesterol — High Cholesterol: Science is about evaluating claims.

You go to your parents and say, “Is it true? You never told me I was adopted.” They say, “Yes, we were waiting to tell you someday.” You go to your best friend and you say, “I found out I was adopted.” He says, “Who are your real parents?” You replied, “I don’t know. I found out they’re in China, there was an orphanage. I may never know.”

He says, “Until you tell me who your real parents are, I don’t believe you were adopted.” That’s ridiculous. The claim is you are adopted. You can prove that or disprove it. By the way, if you have something that can’t be falsified like you believe in God, that’s a belief, not a scientific field of inquiry. You may have reasons you think that, and I have nothing against believing in things but don’t tell me that it’s actual science or fact or proven or logical. It’s a belief.

Maybe there’s a belief wrapped around our understanding of cholesterol, that if the numbers are high and total cholesterol or if the HDL isn’t the right ratio with the LDL, you are headed for trouble. There’s a belief about that, but it’s not based necessarily on facts.

There’s a claim. Here’s the claim. If you have high cholesterol or a high cholesterol HDL ratio, then you’re more likely to have a risk factor for suffering a heart attack. That’s the claim. That’s the reason for doing the test. We’re going to evaluate that claim. Now, if somebody says, “What causes heart attacks,” that’s like saying, “Who are your real parents?” We don’t have to know that yet. It turns out I wrote a book about that, but that’s not part of evaluating the claim of whether cholesterol is relevant. Let’s go through this. First of all, I think it would help your readers if you tried to answer these questions for me.

I’m going to go for it. I’ll give it my best shot.

Do you think the blood that circulates in our body including the coronary arteries is the same blood? In other words, is there a different blood in the spleen artery than in the liver?

No. What I mean is it is the same blood.

Nobody thinks it’s different. That would be ridiculous and you’d have to prove that. What about the arteries? Is a coronary artery made of the same material as a spleen artery?

Yes.

Nobody thinks differently and if you do a biopsy, they look the same. You can’t tell the difference. The claim with coronary artery plaque or deposits in the arteries, that’s what causes the restriction in the blood flow, is that there’s something in the blood that’s too high that’s precipitating on the arteries. We already know that the blood is the same and the arteries are the same, so therefore you would get plaque buildup in the spleen artery, hepatic artery, femoral artery, and all the other arteries.

This is such a good argument, I love it. Why would it be happening in the heart and not in these other arteries and these other organs?

It’s the same blood, same artery, same person, everything’s the same. You do get plaque buildup in the spleen artery. You get plaque buildup in the coronary artery, the carotid artery, femoral artery, all in different places because whatever is the dynamic leading to plaque buildup, i.e. atherosclerosis, it’s the same everywhere, as you would expect. Now, you’ve probably talked to a lot of people about their health over the years. How many people do you know had a spleen attack?

Not one, I would say.

How about a liver attack? Foot attack?

None.

Kidney attack?

None.

I was an ER doctor for a while and I talked to doctors. I probably asked 100,000 people because every time I do a lecture, I say, “Raise your hand if anybody has seen anybody with a spleen attack.” One guy raised his hand, but I asked him and he said, “No, somebody got shot in the spleen and it bled.” That’s different. Do anybody who’s had a heart attack?

Yes.

Dick Cheney, Bill Clinton, Fred.

Not a close relative or anything, but yes.

You know hundreds of people, allegedly.

Yes.

Why is that?

I don’t know.

Human Heart, Cosmic Heart

I wondered that myself and nobody had an answer. There’s only one organ that has attacks, although the brain has strokes, which is similar, but only one organ has attacks or ischemic events allegedly caused by restriction of the blood to the part of the heart, and the rest of them don’t. That leads you to suggest it’s the difference between the spleen and the heart, not the arteries. Arteries are the same. That was the first thing, and I thought, “This is messed up.”

I wrote a book about the heart and talked about why people have heart attacks. I’ve seen hundreds of people and they typically have the same story, which is they were walking up a hill with their wife and they felt a little chest pain. They go to the cardiologist who says that they have a 95% blockage of the right coronary artery or left. They need a bypass because if they block any more, they’re going to die.

Yes and then those people sometimes have triple bypasses and quadruple bypasses.

Let’s look at this. First of all, they say that all the blood to your heart goes through these three coronary arteries. That’s why they bypass them. You’re saying this guy who walked up this hill, not that he didn’t feel great, but he’s more or less fine, he’s got 5% blood flow to his heart. In other words, if he blocks from 5% down to what, 3%, curtains. He’s dead.

In other words, with 5%, how was he doing as well as he was doing?

Yes, how did he walk up that hill? You need to tell me if you go from 5% to 3%, then you’re going to die of a heart attack. If you got 5% blood flow and all the blood is going through those arteries, you got no blood flow. How does that work? Because of that, I said, “Somebody must have studied this with autopsy.” People who die of heart attacks, that’s the worst of the worst. What percentage of them have a blockage in the artery leading to the part that died?

It turns out there’s been 4 or 5, maybe more studies through the years because in the ‘40s, when they started this so-called thrombogenic, the plaque is called a thrombus, the reason you have a heart attack is you get a blocked artery and the cardiologists didn’t believe it. It turns out they said the people who had blockages had less heart attacks, not more.

You have to prove this to us. They did studies on autopsy and they had anywhere between 18% had a blockage up to 78%. That means, at best, 22% of the people who died of a heart attack don’t have a blockage. At worst, 82% of the people who die of a heart attack have no blockage at all of any significance.

By the way, just because you have a blockage doesn’t mean it caused the heart attack. A guy named Giorgio Baroldi, an Italian pathologist, wrote a book called The Etiopathogenesis of Heart Disease. He studied autopsies for 40 years and said 41% of the people who die of a heart attack have a blockage in the artery leading to that area and 50% of the blockages come after the heart attack, not before. That means that in the best study ever done on this, 20% of the people who have a heart attack have a blockage of significance in that artery leading to it. He wasn’t saying that was the cause. They just added a blockage. It means 80% don’t even have a blockage, which means that’s not the cause of heart attacks.

No, but we’ve always been told that it is.

We’re told a lot of things. As William Casey, the head of the CIA said, “When our disinformation campaign is finished, everything the American people believe will be false.” I emphasize the word everything.

Did he say that?

He said that. If you believe something, whatever it is, it’s likely to be false because that was the goal. Of course, we believe it but that doesn’t mean it’s true. If you investigate, there is no correlation between high cholesterol, low cholesterol, and heart attacks, or HDL, LDL, or any of this stuff. There’s no relevance to even the thing it’s meant to cause having a relation with heart attacks. There’s no value in the test.

What we believe may not be true. If you investigate, you won’t find any correlation between high cholesterol, low cholesterol, and heart attacks.

I remember you saying that lots of people with cholesterol levels over let’s say 250 in terms of total cholesterol would be considered the high-risk category, and they still live long, healthy lives. On the other hand, people who are considered no risk, who have let’s say a level less than 150, will sometimes have a higher risk of cancer or early death.

The Lunacy Of Medical Doctors And Scientists

Here’s the fact. If you put it into a grid of no risk, low risk, medium risk, and high risk versus total cholesterol, this example tells you the lunacy of how medical doctors and so-called scientists think. However, I hesitate to use the word think because I now think that going to medical school is acquiring a thought disorder.

Here’s the way they think. It’s no doubt that the highest risk category, the highest death rate is in people with low cholesterol under 150. Everybody agrees with that. Now they say, “We know that, but that’s because people with low cholesterol have cancer and AIDS, so they die a lot.” It’s not the cause. It’s that they’re starving to death because they have cancer end stage or AIDS, so that’s why they have low cholesterol. It’s not like the cholesterol that is causing them to die.

Yet when it’s the highest cholesterol has a lower death rate, they say, “That’s the cause of heart attacks.” A guy named Albert Einstein, I don’t know if you know him. Everybody’s heard of him. The smartest guy who ever lived. He changed science because he said, and everybody started doing this, “Science is no longer based on observations and experimental evidence. It’s based on free inventions of the mind.”

It doesn’t matter what you see. It doesn’t matter what you experiment. You’re making things up. When somebody proves you wrong, you have two options. You can either say, “I was wrong before,” or you can make up something else to keep the story going. With the cholesterol, the first thing they made up was high cholesterol causes early death. They study it and falsified the claim because it’s not causing early death, so they have to make up something else like it’s HDL and the ratio of good and bad.

They falsify that and then they say, “Let’s make something else up to keep the story going.” To go back and say that the whole thing was nonsense from the beginning, that’s not possible in science. They did that with the virus theory. Everybody who gets exposed to the virus gets sick, but then they put ten people in a room and they were exposed to somebody with a virus and not everybody got sick, so they falsified the claim. They said, “It’s because this guy has a better immune system.”

I understand you don’t even believe that exists.

Of course not. They made that up. If you ask them, “How do you prove that?” Antibodies. You get measles, you get antibodies, and you’re immune for life. That means antibodies mean you’re immune. That’s the whole point. If you have AIDS and you have antibodies to HIV, obviously Hilda, antibody means the virus is going to kill you.

I’m confused.

You say, “You just told me that the antibodies mean I’m immune and now you tell me if I have antibodies, that means I’m going to die. Which is it?” Now you’ve got to make up something else. HIV is a smarter virus than the rhinovirus, which causes colds. Which part of this is smart? Does it have a brain or something? This is making up. WC Fields said, “You can BS people most of the time, and it’s enough to make a decent living.”

It’s a shell game. They’re keeping us confused. They’re moving the goalposts. They’re changing the game and no wonder we’re confused and also afraid. When a doctor looks you in the eye and says you have high cholesterol, you’re on the road to a heart attack or stroke, it puts kind of the fear of God in you.

That’s the whole point.

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I think in some of the literature I’ve read that you’ve written, you’ve said these issues with high cholesterol could “show” issues with the liver or oxidative stress.

That’s before I learned how to evaluate that. That’s the problem with writing things and writing books, you leave a paper trail.

Yes, you do, and you have. In other words, I thought, at least, even if it’s not helping me understand my cholesterol and I don’t need to fear high cholesterol, it is indicating that, for example, if I have high cholesterol, which I’ve been told I do, that maybe I’m having issues with my liver function or oxidative stress?

No. There’s a 100% cure for high cholesterol. It worked every time in my practice which is never to do the test again.

There’s a hundred percent cure for high cholesterol, which is never to do the test again.

Why do I love this so much? It’s great.

Here’s the thing. I’ve been over this with analytical chemists. Here’s another claim. You have a chemical called cholesterol in your blood. Now, first of all, I have done a pretty significant investigation into the claim that physical stuff is made of atoms. Now here’s an interesting thing. Do you believe that?

I would say yes, but I’m afraid you’re going to say it’s wrong.

If you believe it, do you know how that was proven?

No, I don’t know.

That’s the interesting thing about people. They believe something often passionately, they’re willing to go die, and stuff. If you say, “Who experimented to prove that?” they have no idea. I happen to know that. Modern physicists will tell you that there’s no nucleus in an atom. No electrons are spinning around. That’s a model. It’s an invention of the mind. It doesn’t correspond with reality, which means that the whole idea of molecules and chemicals in living systems is a model. I asked an analytical chemist, “How do there’s cholesterol in me when I’m living?”

You take some blood and you mix it with this acid, and then you mix it with this other stuff and this base, and you precipitate it by heating it and drying it, then you resuspend it, you mix it with the different chemicals, and it shows you a level. I said, “How do you know that these chemicals did not make something appear that wasn’t there in my life?” He said, “I don’t know.”

“Do you do a control? Can you show me the chemical without precipitating it with an acid?” “No, because we can’t find it then.” I looked into this, not so much with cholesterol, but with DNA. The reason they said DNA is in the nucleus, is they take white blood cells from pus and extract the nuclei, which you can, then they mix it with phosphoric acid and they get this precipitate.

The reason they thought it was a different chemical was because the chemical tested to be rich in phosphorus instead of sulfur. Now, all the other precipitates they did with sulfuric acid. I would ask them, a guy named Meishner came up with this. “Meishner, are you sure that you didn’t get the rich in phosphorus chemical because you used phosphorus acid instead of sulfuric acid?”

They never did a control because if they don’t use phosphoric acid, they can’t find it. I’m not saying I know it isn’t there, but I’ve read the Watson and Crick papers on how they discovered the double helix. There’s not a measurement in the whole paper. He says, “We assumed a rotational angle of nine angstroms and that means it’s a double helix.”

That’s like saying, “I got this figure and I got four right angles of 90 degrees. I assume that. Therefore it’s a square.” Right, because that’s the definition of a square. You didn’t find anything. You just said, “I assume certain angles, therefore it’s there.” That’s not science. That’s superstition. We don’t even know you have cholesterol or HDL.

I see what you’re saying, but I want to go back because you do have an inquiring mind. You do question presuppositions. What led you to the conclusion that the data that came out from the lipid analysis process showed that there was oxidative stress or potential oxidative stress and issues with liver function?

The DNA

Every single mistake that I’ve made, and I’ve made a lot, like I said, I have a paper trail, is I made a mistake because I believed what I was told without looking into it. I didn’t know what I call the method section. I didn’t know how they proved that high cholesterol has anything to do with so-called oxidative stress, which I have my doubts about anyway.

I wouldn’t have known how they proved that. It was a free invention of my mind and I’m good at convincing people about anything. I went with it and then in the last five years, I’ve had to refine how do you know stuff. I looked into it and it’s uncontrolled BS. They don’t have any idea if that’s true. You don’t even know if you have the same cholesterol from one minute to the next. The things I’ve looked into say DNA is hereditary material, it’s the same in every cell of your body, but that’s disproven.

You have different DNA in your arm, your leg, and your spleen. It changes every second. This is proven. You can look at the work of Barbara McClintock. By the way, this is relevant to cholesterol because you go to your doctor, “Why do I have high cholesterol?” “It’s genetic.” What you should do is ask him or her, “Can you tell me which gene it is?”

Of course, they won’t be able to answer that.

They won’t be able to answer that and then you can say, “Are you saying that one gene codes for one protein?” That’s what they say. Do you know how many proteins there are in the human body? There are 200,000 and above. Do you know how many genes they say there are? Ten thousand. Geneticists are not good at arithmetic because if they were, they would say, “We got 190,000 proteins, which have no code. Who made them?”

That’s another thing. Once you falsify the claim that a gene makes a protein, there’s a gene for high cholesterol, if you want to keep the story going, you have to make up some new stuff. You say, “The body rearranges the genes so that it can make all these different proteins.” How does it do that? We don’t know. Who’s directing this show? Nobody. It’s all random.

The assumption is based on assumption. Of course, the public learned to outsource our health, unfortunately, to those with the white coat. When they tell us these numbers are alarming, it works and we get alarmed. Instead, what do you recommend, Tom, that we can do to have homeostasis, to have balance in our lives and healthy blood flow and all the things that we want?

The first thing, again, not to be a hypocrite, is don’t go to the doctor and don’t get blood tests because all that does is make you worse. The second thing is that it’s not a secret. You live like a human being, which means you are connected to the Earth, grounding, bare feet, sunlight, good water and eating good food, nourishing traditional diet.

Don’t worry about it. Get some exercise movement and have good relations. Tell the truth. Don’t hurt anybody and don’t take anybody’s BS. Don’t steal people’s stuff. By the way, don’t vote for people who want to steal people’s stuff. That’s another thing because that’s immoral and that will undermine your health.

I know you say that because we know this isn’t right, for example, the whole cholesterol, lipidology, measuring framework, doesn’t mean we have to know what is right. In other words, you can’t necessarily speak to what’s causing those blockages in the heart, or can you?

The Energy Defect In The Heart

The reason we have heart attacks is an energetic defect in the heart, which is the heart is a different organ, energetically and functionally than any other organ, and particularly, it can’t stop. We’re a battery. We have charge and we have this energy flow. We have this electrical activity, which is the energy of life.

Now here’s the other thing about doctors. You say to them, “I don’t believe in particles. I think we’re electrical beings and we have this flow of electricity and that determines our health. Doc, what do you think about that?” “You’ve probably been listening to that Cowan guy. He’s nuts.” “I get it but how do whether my brain is working right?” “You do an EEG.” “What is that measuring?” “The electrical activity of your brain.”

“I thought you told me that the electrical activity doesn’t mean anything.” “Yes, except we measure it.” “How do you know if my heart’s working fine?” “We do an EKG.” “What is that measuring?” “The electrical activity of your heart.” “Wait a minute. You told me that the electrical activity is this Cowan guy’s BS. What about muscles?” “You do an EMG, so you test the electrical.”

In other words, the whole basis of testing organs is based on testing the electrical activity. When our battery runs out, then we start building up acidic debris in our tissues. It’s like the blood can’t get through and upriver from that damaged acidic tissue. You’ll get debris built up. Just like if a beaver builds a dam, you get debris built up upstream from the dam. The debris is not causing the dam. The beaver caused the dam.

Upriver, you get debris. That’s why you get blockages. It has nothing to do with cholesterol or any of that. The other reason is that the biggest psyop of all in health by far is we have things called diseases. What we have is therapeutic strategies. Here’s the thing. You got this artery and it’s weak because you don’t have the gel layer to protect it.

That’s a whole long story, but sort of take my word for it. You have a protective gel layer and that’s weak. Your body says, “We may blow out our blood vessels here and then we bleed to death. I’m going to shore it up with some concrete.” The depositing of substance in that weak part of the vessel is to keep it from bursting.

Yes. It’s for repair. It’s for health.

It’s a repair. It’s not a disease and that’s everything. Every symptom, every cold, every cough, every flu, every COVID, every dementia is your body’s saying, “Here’s the situation I have. I’m going to do something to remediate this. I have a weak blood vessel because you don’t protect my vessels. You’re never out in the sun. If you’re not out in the sun, then you don’t have the protective gel layer and I can’t convince you to go out in the sun because you don’t listen. What am I going to do? I’m going to put some concrete with cholesterol. I’m going to use this substance and put it on my vessel. At least it won’t burst.”

Every symptom, every cold, every cough, every flu, every COVID, every dementia can be your body’s way of saying, “Here’s the situation I have. I’m going to do something to remediate this.”

That’s right. Our bodies are on our side. They’re not fighting us and sickness is something we’re supposed to ward off. It sounds like you’re talking about an upgrade. You’re talking about the process being of benefit to us and for us, not against us.

Now here’s another one. They get this claim that cancer is a genetic problem that has fast-growing cells. That’s the claim. Hilda, you probably have a house. Let’s say somebody puts some stinky garbage and throws it in the foyer of your house. What do you do?

Take it outside.

Before you take it outside, you do what?

I collect it.

Into bags or cans or something and then you take it to the garage and then you take it to the curb. If somebody keeps putting garbage and your garage gets full, you put it in the bedroom and then the living room and then the kitchen and then you move because your house is full of garbage.

Yes, it’s going to overflow for sure.

I got some stinky garbage. I put it in your body. What does your body do? It puts it in a bag. It’s called the tumor and then you take it out to the curb and then you’re okay but they keep putting more garbage and then it goes to your liver, to the spleen, and then to your brain, then you’re dead. You then move. They say it crawls from your breast to your liver. It swims through the bloodstream.

Go to your oncologist and say, “Can you show me the cancer cells in the blood because it’s swimming from the breast through the blood, to the liver?” “No, can’t find it there.” It’s not swimming any more than the garbage swam from your garage to your spare bedroom. You had more garbage, so you put it in a new place.

Why is it the same type? It’s probably the same garbage. It’s like in your room, you have the same garbage as in the living room because somebody keeps putting the same garbage in. It’s easy to prove because if you say, “How did it get there?” it goes through the bloodstream. That’s what they say. “Show it to me in the bloodstream.” “We can’t.” “Why not?” “It is because we can’t find it.” “How do you know it’s there?” “How else did it get there?”

We’re back to those assumptions, the stacking of presuppositions, and the inventions of the mind.

Yes, there are words for it, but it’s making things up.

I’m so thankful for the information and kind of how you’re dispelling these myths that we walk around with that high cholesterol is going to lead inevitably to heart disease and that these tests will not do us any good in the first place. We’ve also covered DNA and cancer and the myths or presuppositions in those areas as well. You’ve given us so much food for thought, but I want to ask you the question I love to pose at the end. If the readers could do one thing to improve their health, what would you recommend that they do?

Don’t go to doctors. If somebody makes a claim, ask them how they know that claim is true. We don’t do that in life. I remember so many times in medical school when I heard things that I knew that was messed up and nobody said anything. I remember very clearly sitting in medical school, and a dermatologist, a famous guy came in and said, “Here are pictures of measles, chickenpox, roseola, and all this.” I’m sitting there looking at it and saying, “I don’t see the difference.”

“This is a macula papula, this is a papula macula, this is a vesicular papula.” They all look the same. Some are worse than others and some have oozing, and there’s no definition of any of these diseases. He’s going on and everybody’s writing it down and I’m sitting there thinking. I didn’t know. You get into practice and the first day, somebody comes in, “I got this rash. What do you think it is?” I say to myself, “I know I don’t know what this is because I never could figure this out.” I made something up. I said, “It’s Roseola.”

Here’s what the CDC says about measles, “Here’s how you do it. If a person comes in with a rash, step one, you can’t tell whether it’s measles or not.” It could be twenty other diseases they list. You can’t tell. The first question you ask is are they vaccinated? If they say yes, then it’s not measles. If they say no, then it is measles. You then do a blood test. Now the blood test, they can’t tell either but if they’re unvaccinated and they have a rash, then they have presumptive measles.

They tell you that measles is a disease of the unvaccinated. That’s because if you were vaccinated and you can’t tell the difference by definition, you don’t have it. How could you have it? People and doctors believe this. I knew at the time. They said you got these diseases that are caused by antibodies attacking your body. People have rheumatoid factor attacks and your body gets rheumatoid arthritis.

That’s the definition of rheumatoid arthritis. Forty percent of the people with rheumatoid arthritis don’t have a rheumatoid factor. I said to them, “You told me that the definition of the disease is you have these antibodies. That’s the cause and then on the next breath, you told me that 40% of the people who have the disease didn’t have the antibodies.”

That’s like saying that I go out to my yard and there are these feathered things that go, “Cluck, cluck,” around. They are chickens. I have these other ones that have four legs and go, “Meow.” Those are featherless chickens. That’s how we think. The reason that I put it into common language like that is if I said that those are featherless chickens, you’d say, “Tom’s had lost it. That’s ridiculous.” That’s not called thinking.

Thank you so much for bringing your wisdom to bare and admitting where you made a mistake in the past but also, that we need to stand on our toes and not believe everything that we hear. Take some steps for good health by stepping away from the doctor’s office. Thank you, Tom.

We need to stand on our toes and not believe everything we hear. Take some steps for good health by stepping away from the doctor’s office.

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Our guest was Dr. Tom Cowan. Visit his website, DrTomCowan.com, to learn more. Keep in mind that the Wise Traditions show is available on pretty much every platform and through our private podcast app. Download it and use it so you don’t miss a thing. You’ll always find out when new episodes come out and you can share your favorite interviews with friends. This helps us get the word out in a more personal way. Thank you so much for reading, my friend. Stay well and remember to keep your feet on the ground and your face to the sun.

About Tom Cowan

Dr. Thomas Cowan is a well-known alternative medicine doctor, author and speaker, with a common-sense, holistic approach to health and wellness. He has given countless lectures and workshops throughout the U.S. on a variety of subjects in health and medicine, and is the author of six best-selling books, including “The Contagion Myth” co-authored by Sally Fallon Morell, “Cancer and the New Biology of Water,” “Human Heart, Cosmic Heart,” “Vaccines, Autoimmunity and the Changing Nature of Childhood Illness,” “The Nourishing Traditions Book of Baby and Child Care” co-authored by Sally Fallon Morell, and “The Fourfold Path to Healing” (with Sally Fallon and Jaimen McMillan).