LIVE: Food, Farming And The Healing Arts

How do you celebrate the 10 million download milestone for the Wise Traditions podcast? With A LIVE podcast recording on a farm! Listen in on our conversation with top-of-the-line experts on our favorite topics: food, farming, and the healing arts, in front of an audience of about 130 of our closest friends/biggest fans. Among a number of topics, we discuss the easiest way to get organ meats in the family, how raw milk heals, the joys and woes of farming, and how the best pharmacy on the planet is found in the space between your two ears!

Our panelists (and their respective websites) are:

Hilary Boynton – schooloflunch.com

Tania Teschke – bordeauxkitchen.com

Sally Fallon Morell – nourishingtraditions.com

Jesse Straight – whiffletreefarmva.com

Robin Shirley – takebackyourhealthretreats.com

Navin Hettiarachchi – navinhealth.com

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Episode Transcript

Within the below transcript the bolded text is Hilda Labrada Gore and the regular text is Hilary Boynton, Tania Teschke, Sally Fallon Morell, Jesse Straight, Robin Shirley, and Navin Hettiarachchi.

How can real food help our bodies heal? What joys are found in farming? Is the best pharmacy on the planet found in the space between our two ears? This is episode 416 and we have six guests, Hilary Boynton, Tania Teschke, Sally Fallon Morell, Jesse Straight, Robin Shirley, and Navin Hettiarachchi. They helped us celebrate our 10 million download milestone at Sally’s Farm.

We’re sharing it with you here because it was so much fun. Also, each of our guests offered insights into ancestral living in the modern world. They covered stuff like the benefits of raw milk, which organ meat is the best for beginners, why shopping local helps the small farmer and your family, and how to learn to tune into the lessons life is offering you.

Before we dive into the conversation, we are doing a giveaway in honor of the 10 million download milestone. Follow us on Instagram for details at @WestonAPrice. You may win a ticket to attend our Annual Wise Traditions Conference in Kansas City, Missouri this October 20th to the 22nd of 2023. The vibe you feel on this show is the very feel of the conference, comfortable, encouraging, stimulating, and nourishing. Go to Wise Traditions website to find out more about the conference and to register. Don’t forget to sign up for our giveaway because you might get to go for free.

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The friends we have here have all been featured on the show before. It’s a reunion of some amazing people. I’ll start from the end here. We have Hilary Boynton. She wrote the Heal Your Gut Cookbook. She runs the School of Lunch Training Academy and helps people learn how to cook nutrient-dense meals, whether they’re in a school or want to feed their family or a retreat center. She is committed to reversing the trend of chronic illness in the next generation.

Next to her is wonderful Tania Teschke. She is the author of The Bordeaux Kitchen. She has Bordeaux Kitchen Natural Products, which have tallow-based elements for your skincare and beauty. It’s lovely. She’s working on her next book about organ meats. She also runs ancestral tours. She’s going to Switzerland and I happen to be going with her. I’m excited about that.

In the middle is the woman who started the wonderful Weston A. Price Foundation for food farming and the healing arts. She is a prolific author and an advocate for real food for healthy living, Sally Fallon Morell. I feel like I’m going to cry again. Every week, whenever we meet and I interview her for the show and I say, “Welcome to the show, Sally,” and she says, “It’s so good to be back again. Thank you.” I’m like, “You’re thanking me. What a privilege?” I feel so mentored and honored to know this beautiful woman who embodies what it’s like to be a strong woman who understands what healing is all about. Thank you, Sally, so much.

Jesse Straight from Whiffletree Farm. Jesse was one of the first folks I interviewed for the show when I needed a farmer. I was like, “This guy is local.” I did the interview with him, got home to play it back, and it was bad. I was like, “How embarrassing. I have to do it again,” but this man did not flinch. We did it again. I’m so thankful for what he’s doing. He’s here with a couple of his sons. He’s got eight kids and runs a beautiful farm in Warrenton, Virginia.

Next is Robin Shirley from Take Back Your Health. She is a phenomenal woman who for many years ran an East Coast and a West Coast conference to help people discover the wonderful benefits of changing their nutrition and healing modalities. She has the Compass Learning Center in Charlottesville, Virginia where she helps little ones almost forest school style, exploring, learning, tactile, and feeding them nourishing food. Robin is a dear friend and mentor of mine.

Navin Hettiarachchi, I love him so much. If you might remember the episode that we released around Christmas time, there was a man I interviewed who kept saying, “Every day is Christmas.” That’s Navin. He has been a trainer to pro athletes and also helped the sickest among us. He takes cases of people who are so sick and have no recourse and who have often been given a terminal diagnosis. He helps them find hope and healing in amazing ways.

Welcome to the show. This is a very special episode. We are celebrating 10 million downloads and in so doing. We realized, “We haven’t done an episode on food, farming, and the healing arts, all three. We’ve invited some panelists to Sally Fallon Morell’s farm, P.A. Bowen Farmstead and we’re going to ask them to tell us a little bit about these three areas. We’re starting with Hilary Boynton. Hilary, what was the health crisis that precipitated you’re getting into real food for healing?

I was the teenager who fell for the fat-free craze in the ‘90s. As propaganda is pervasive and children are very impressionable and I was one of those kids. For about ten years, I stuck to that dogma. During my senior year in high school, I had stress fractures in both my femur bones and tibias. No one thought about diet. I was a soccer player. I went on eating this way thinking that I had all the answers.

It wasn’t until my mid-twenties when all of a sudden, I was a young newlywed and got pregnant, and then had a miscarriage right away. That went on for three years of infertility and four miscarriages. That was a very heartbreaking time for me. I started to question, “Why is my body not working? What’s broken? Why at age 26 can I not hold a baby?” Still, nobody was recommending a dietary change or looking at my diet.

Long story short, I went through fertility treatments and I ended up with triplets. I had a few years of infertility and now three babies. I was happy and then two more babies. All of a sudden, I had 5 kids under 4. I’m overly blessed. It was my fourth baby who at two months old was all of a sudden covered in eczema, head to toe. I was already an overwhelmed stressed mom and started to wake up to organic. If it said organic, then it was fine. As long as it was organic then it was okay.

Ironically, I was trying to change the school lunches in my town and I got introduced to this woman who had healed her son of asthma with raw milk. She was telling me about the Weston Price Foundation and I should try raw milk for my child. I had never heard of raw milk, but I was so desperate at this point. I was like, “I will try anything.” I was sick of Zyrtec twice a day and steroid cream that I knew in my heart as a mama was a band-aid and that was not getting to the root cause.

I put him on raw milk and cod liver oil and he was healed within two months or maybe less. I can’t remember. It was so long ago, but it was fast. My eyes were completely opened. Thankfully, Sally was speaking shortly thereafter and I attended her lecture. I remember sitting there, jaw-dropping, and thinking, “I have been duped my whole life.” Everything started to click into place and it all made perfect sense.

I left her lecture and there were the Amish all spread out with their raw milk, raw cheese, pastured eggs, and beautiful grass-fed beef. I was like, “The Amish are here.” When she went to Africa, they were like, “We need someone to run a co-op in Massachusetts,” and I’m like, “I’m your girl.” I was in fully. For a couple of years, I ran a co-op out of my home in Massachusetts because I wanted people to have access to these beautiful nutrient-dense foods that are so healing. That was my impetus for change. As soon as my eyes were open, I was full steam ahead.

Why are you so passionate about helping the next generation?

At this point in humanity, we don’t have a choice. We need to find a new way forward but return to those old ways. My journey didn’t end with eczema. I have a child with epilepsy and several children with speech delays. I had a husband who was diagnosed with throat cancer. My father had Alzheimer’s. It was a long very challenging, stressful, and exhausting time. I don’t wish that on anybody. It’s a very unpleasant way to live.

There’s not a lot of joy when you’re chasing health. I often say we spend all of our time and all of our money chasing health. The way that I saw that I could make a difference was to feed children, not only my own children but as many children as I can because we know that children are the most precious resource and the opportunity. I stepped into the work of feeding children at school when my kids were attending school and became the lunch lady.

We spend all of our time and money chasing health.

The opportunity to change the trajectory of health for a child when you start to feed them this way or these nourishing ways at age 4 or 5 years old and you have them through high school is huge. We have their stomachs for 6 hours a day and feed them 30% of their meals. We’re sourcing locally and bringing farmers and parents in. It’s this beautiful opportunity. We’re in our sixth year this 2023. I can tell you wholeheartedly that this is possible. We can do this at all schools and in all homes. I am on a mission to spread this word. I’m forever grateful for the foundation for changing my life and hopefully the lives of many people as possible.

Thank you, Hilary. Tania, you wrote The Bordeaux Kitchen. I’m curious about what the French know about the food that we don’t know.

To give you a little background, we lived in Bordeaux for three years. My husband is with the State Department, he’s here. Thank you for supporting me. We had been to various posts before then, but we went to Bordeaux, France with our two girls who were then 5 and 7, or something like that. I felt like I needed to up my game in terms of cooking and also understand and improve my own health.

I came to know the ancestral health world as I did some research and listened to podcasts. I eventually came across Hilda’s Wise Traditions. What I learned while I was there chasing winemakers in the field, asking them questions about how they make wine because in Bordeaux, everyone makes wine and many people in France know how to cook. We all know this intuitively, but we forget in our fast-paced world that it means so much to slow down and take the time to enjoy a meal and wine around the table with family and friends.

WT 416 | Farming — Farming: It means so much to just slow down and take the time to enjoy a meal around the table with family and friends.

The French do this very well as a normal course of events for them. In addition to seasonal eating, they shop at open-air markets once or twice a week. It’s a lovely tradition and eating at the grandmother’s house every week. That’s something that I picked up. Every culture has its traditions in this way. What I learned from the French too is that they’re not squeamish about eating organ meats, which are the most nutrient-dense foods that we can eat.

What I realized though was that it’s not French culture. Every culture has its own traditional recipes around the world. If you ask anyone from any culture, “Did you have organ meats in your culture?” They will absolutely say yes. I ask everyone I encounter from every culture here in the US, but a lot of people have dropped those traditions, unfortunately.

Given that you’ve enjoyed organ meats and studied about them in different cultures and stuff, what’s your favorite organ meat to prepare and what do you recommend that we get started in?

The gateway drug to organ meats would be liverwurst because it’s nutrient-dense, highly palatable, and kids love it. That’s what I ate for the first time as a little girl with my family in Germany because the family slaughters a pig every year and then they have all the wurst and everything. They are also kinds that you can get made with cream in them so it’s sweeter. The liver is the most nutrient-dense food on the planet. Beef liver, lamb liver, and chicken liver. For lunch, we had liver at home but not the kids. They like liverwurst but not liver in the pan. That’s a little tougher sell.

Thymus is the one that I love in terms of flavor though it’s not very flavorful. The thymus gland is the immune gland. It produces T-cells for the immune system. If you’re fighting infection or want to build up your immune system, the thymus which in French is ris de veau. Basically, we call it sweetbreads. I recommend that.

Every chef in France knows how to make it. It’s always on the menu if you go to a nice restaurant, even in the US in some places. In France in most restaurants, they don’t use tallow or duck fat to cook it in, which I would recommend. They often use seed oil. That’s something that I’m trying to ask chefs as I go around France, asking them for their recipes to say, “Why don’t you use some tallow?”

How do you say tallow in French?

It’s suif.

Merci, mon ami. Sally, you were an advocate for living and eating more ancestrally before you got into farming. You’ve been doing farming now for several years on this spot. What do you wish that more people knew about farming?

Thank you, Hilda. I want to make sure everyone has talked to Jeffrey or knows he’s there. Jeffrey Morell is my husband. I can’t take credit for the vision that created this farm. He has spent the last several years, clearing and making silvopasture. He’s built three miles of roads on the farm. All in his ‘80s and ‘90s. What was the question?

What do you wish that more people knew about farming?

Farming is hard work and also expensive. The only way we’re going to keep our farms is if you all pledge to the 50% campaign. Spend 50% of your food dollars supporting farmers who are doing things right. Mostly, they’re losing money. They either need to get started or you need to have a lot of ready labor like eight children or interns like Joel has. He figured this out with his scintillating personality. You need some income to make it work. My family in California is in wine and it took my dad 30 years to make his winery profitable. I remember him saying, “When am I going to stop putting money in this thing?” It takes time and you need the support of people buying your product.

Why should people bother? What difference does it make to us? Why don’t we shop at Costco? That’s not what I think we should do, but I’m tossing it out.

First of all, a lot of the things that make us healthy, you cannot get at Costco. You can’t get raw milk, lard, and grass-fed butter. To me, commercial pork is about the most disgusting thing you can eat. You can’t get naturally raised pork. You can’t get those things. I always say that our food policy is run by people who use non-dairy creamer. They just don’t understand.

I had to laugh. Jeffrey and I went to a meeting and we were being harassed about some of the things we were doing here. We went to this meeting to hear what they were saying. The guy running the meeting said, “I had to go out and get some fresh creamer.” I couldn’t believe it. Do you see what I mean? That’s what’s important. Make sure the creamer is fresh.

They just don’t understand. There’s not a chemical they don’t like. They’re propagandized by the industry. They truly believe that if we had small farms, we would starve. While everyone was moaning about the State Department, the McCarthy hearings, and everything about the communists in the State Department where they were going was the Department of Agriculture.

Marx’s vision was animals are units of production or the industrialization of agriculture. That’s Marxist policy. That’s what our agriculture department believes in. They wouldn’t realize it was the Marxist Communist Party. Look at our dairy farmers, they’re not allowed to sell to the public. In Russia, you can sell to the public. It’s all backward.

This will change because what we have going on is what I’ve often said, the natural selection of the wise and people who continue to eat these industrial products like seed oils, sweeteners, and all this processed food eventually will die out. It sounds cruel, but this is how nature works. We don’t want that to happen. We want as many people to survive this very trying time as possible.

Thank you so much, Sally.

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Coming up, a farmer who studied theology at UVA shares what brings him the most joy on the farm. We then hit the healing arts part of the program. It’s the bit that touches on how our mental, emotional, and spiritual health is intertwined with the physical.

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We’re a part of Team Humanity. Have you heard Allan Savory use that phrase? I love it so much. Team Humanity on this lifeboat of nutritional healthy living. Jesse, you went to UVA and got a degree in Theology. How did you end up switching to farming or is it the same thing?

First of all, thank you Hilda for hosting this and Sally for all your work. You’ve been so influential to me, my wife, and our family. The backstory was I knew I wanted to do something great. I wanted to do something worth the life and opportunities I’d been given. That was the beginning, but I was lost and tossed about what to do. I was doing Theology and Pre-med at UVA trying to find a way of what I could do with my life that was worth it.

To make the story a bit shorter, I stumbled across Wendell Barry at one point because a friend passed along a short novel of his that captured my imagination. He was the poet that cast this vision of a good life or an integrated life that would be in some ways countercultural to the modern life we have, which takes all the different parts of your life and pulls it apart in different directions. That made a ton of sense to me. His vision is very agrarian, though you don’t need to live an agrarian life. That’s his vision and that captured my imagination.

From there, I then came across Joel Salatin. Joel was a bit of the nuts-and-bolts mentor to me. Eventually, it came together. In the midst of my confusion, I thought there was no way out of the darkness, but it did come together, thanks to God, and for the reasons that in retrospect it makes so much sense. At that time, I was stumbling around with my hands out. In retrospect, I wanted to do something good in the world. In the context of our bad food and farming, that’s conventional, it was very apparent that there was much that could be done even in one family in a small way.

On the other side of things, I had a history of enjoying physical work outside. The pleasure of working with biological life comes out and is part of the system where the sun hits a plant, grows a plant, an animal eats it, it poops, and all this stuff. I get to be mixed up in the system that was exciting and intuitively compelling.

The other idea of this integrated life is the way in which my family like my sons could be integrated into my life. It wasn’t like I had a job that was incoherent for my kids and my family, but it was totally tied together. I walked out my door and there’s my work and here’s my family with me. That was also very compelling. Again, part of that whole is like Wendell Berry’s vision of an integrated life. Also, I had a history of being an entrepreneur. The idea of having my own business was fun. I like that idea. Those four things doing a little bit of good, the physical work outside, the integrated life, and having my own business makes sense, but at that time, I was totally lost and that’s how it came about.

It sounds like a lot of it brings you pleasure. What would you say brings you the most joy on the farm?

There are a lot of things that do, but the thing that brings me the most joy if I were to set a scene for you, imagine a beautiful spring day. Sun is shining, the cool breeze is blowing, the grass is lush, and the cattle are fat, slick, and munching on that beautiful lush pasture that maybe my sons and I moved them to. I can look back and I can see where the cattle were a couple of days ago and the grass is already popping up because of the way we’re giving it proper rest. I can see the health of the animals and the land. I can be doing the work with my family and then knowing that I’m providing some of the best food. That would be the perfect moment or the perfect day.

As I said before, it’s a special privilege that I’m playing a role in the coming forth of life. The sun will shine, things will grow, and animals will eat, but I get to play a role in choreographing that to its fittest expression. Getting to play a role in that is special. These are forces that are way beyond my control. When I die, these things will continue going on. I only have a small part to play in this, but I have a little part in it, which is special. That would be my best moments of the week thing.

That sounds lifting and life-giving. We’ve done food with Hilary and Tania, farming with Sally and Jesse, and now we’re moving to the healing arts. Robin, I wanted to ask you about the intersection of physical health and mental, emotional, and even spiritual health.

Everyone in their life experiences a moment where they’re experiencing so much pain that they have to ask the question, “Why is this happening and why is this so painful? How am I going to get out of this spot that I’m in? What am I supposed to do? What am I going to do now, tomorrow, and the next day to get to a different spot? This is painful.”

For me, that moment came when I was eleven years old and was diagnosed with systemic juvenile idiopathic arthritis. I was in so much pain. It was debilitating and it kept me in bed and from leaving the house. If you are curious and quiet enough, and you listen to what happens after you ask those questions, you will get nudges and get messages. You have opened the door to your soul.

If you listen to those messages and the nudges, you might then come to a place where you feel brave enough to ask another set of questions. “What do I need my life to look like? What do I want my life to look like for it to be worth all of this pain? Am I brave enough to move towards that even if I can’t do what I thought I was going to do with my life? Can I rethink this? Can I do something else that will also make me happy?” If you can listen and are brave enough, you start to get into communication with your soul and spirit.

If you listen to those messages and the nudges, you might then come to a place where you feel brave enough to ask another set of questions.

Once you reconnect those wires between your physical and spiritual, the spiritual journey is like a tidal wave or a domino effect and it’s inevitable. It’s impossible to ignore. You can’t get to a spot where life is too painful and want it to be better, and the spiritual journey doesn’t follow if you open that doorway through those questions. That was how it happened to me.

At this point, I’ve come to a spot with my spiritual beliefs where I understand and remember who I was, why I am here, what I’m here for, why it’s painful, the lessons, the silver lining, and the beauty that comes in waves when you’re not expecting it. I can understand how eternal life is and how fleeting this moment is. The pain isn’t my focus. It isn’t the thing I’m trying to avoid anymore. It’s not the thing I’m trying to get away from. For me, that was how the spiritual journey evolved.

The longer we do this show, the more we have conversations like these about how it’s all intertwined, the physical, the emotional, the spiritual, and the mental. It’s beautiful to know about your journey. I l know you have two little ones. Tell me how do you help them feel safe and grow in this spiritual, emotional, mental, and physical dimension?

I read a wise passage that once said, “Children grow up valuing what the adults around them value.” I could sit here and think of 100 little things you could do for your children’s health, but it boils down to valuing what you think is important in life and letting your children see you value those things. What that does is twofold. It helps the children see a good example. It holds you accountable as well.

Value what you think is important in life and let your children see you value those things.

It benefits you because if you’re waking up every morning and believing, “The best thing I can do for my kids is to value what I believe is important in this life,” then every day you’re asking yourself, “What can I do at this moment to realign with what’s important to me?” Self-care, taking care of the home, finances, security for the family, the land, the community, and reconnecting with people. If those are the things you value and that’s the way you live your life, then your children will grow up and model that behavior as well. They will carry on those values.

Thank you so much, Robin. I always say more is caught than taught and I feel like that’s what you were getting at. It’s not about trying to inculcate a lesson into the children but to model and live it. Navin, I’m so glad you’re here. I know you’ve helped pro athletes recover from injury and improve their performance. What is the role of mindset in all of that?

First, I want to say thank you to Hilda and Sally. Thank you to Weston A. Price for changing my life, my patients, my clients, and my parents. I also want to say thank you to everyone who’s here because the fact that you are here, you are awake. We have another choice in how to live our lives and not struggle. I congratulate you that you are aware and open to listening to this information. This is not the information that we get to hear. This is not a conversation that 99.9% of the people would understand and be open to listening to. Congratulations.

To answer Hilda’s question, when I was working for the Washington Redskin as an intern several years ago, I see there are two athletes with back pain. The doctor is going to say, “You have to rest for twelve weeks and take this medicine.” All of a sudden, one athlete decides, “No. The doctor is comparing me to the rest of the population. He’s telling me to rest for twelve weeks. I’m going to get better and I’m going to play next Sunday.” The athlete plays with no pain and he’s 100%. He’s not taking any supplements, medicine, or injections. You’re like, “That’s a miracle.” It’s not a miracle. It’s within us. All of us can do it.

The fact that the doctor says, “It’s going to take you two months. You have diabetes. You are sick. You have a disease.” All of a sudden, we believe in that. “I got a liver problem and I should lay down on the couch. I got high blood pressure. I should feel this.” We go to Google and listen to those symptoms and now we are manifesting those symptoms.

I’ve seen these athletes that are supposed to be out for nine months with torn ligaments. Imagine a tear without a leg cut off, but they’re playing in eight weeks. They’re defining all the signs, evidence, and conventional medicine by believing in themselves. We got to know that we don’t go to the healer to get healed. The healer will give you guidance on how to heal.

In America or other conventional countries, we go to the healer and we’re like, “Give me surgery. Give me a pill.” In these countries where you have a place like, “You got ACL, let’s cut it. You got this, let’s cut the liver.” If you go to Tanzania with the Maasai people, they don’t cut anything. As Tania and everybody in this panel said it’s healing within us. Slow down, come to the human point, be human, and be healed within ourselves. We have everything that we need. That’s something that all of us understand, but I’m here to share with you that my professional athletes who are making $40 million a year plus, when they are ready like you guys are ready to hear the message, they’re going to heal just like this.

When they are not just like the rest of society, it will take the normal time, 8 weeks, 10 weeks, 10 months, or whatever. I want to share with you that you are the healer. You got all the tools and techniques. In fact, in between these years are the best pharmacy we know. Through studies and a functional MRI, our brain can create any pharmaceuticals and supplements through this. Believe and trust in that. Share it with the kids.

You are the healer. You got all the tools and techniques. In fact, in between these ears is the best pharmacy.

As she said, if we believe that our kids going to stop believing what we say and hear. When we share that, it’s going to reflect back to us then we’re going to stop believing. All of a sudden, we are functioning like our ancestors. As Hilda said, “They function well.” When we went to hang out with Maasai people, an 86- or 90-year-old is still stripping the animals and squatting down. I was like, “This is incredible.” That’s where my journey started.

When you were first talking about these amazing athletes, I thought, “There’s a difference between them and the general populace.” I wonder if they do so well because their bodies are ripped and strong or as you were saying that this healing is possible for all of us wherever we’re at?

This is possible for every single person from an 8-year-old kid to a 90-year-old patient. When they’re incurable and the conventional medicine has no supplements, no surgeries, and no diagnosis, I’ve seen people thin them. They then realize, “I have all the tools within me to heal.” In medicine, you’re in the middle of the sea, they’re just giving or throwing you a life vest, and say, “Your symptoms are good. Stay there.” No, I don’t want to be in the middle of the sea. That’s not life. I want to come into the land and sing, dance, and have fun.

When I see this patient, they realize, “These doctors are just giving me a life vest. I’m not living a human life. I’m not dancing, singing, seeing, and enjoying this human life.” When they realize and are ready to do that and come into the land on their own, it’s game over. To answer your question, we have everything that we need. You have everything that you need. We are the healer within us.

Tony Robbins, watch out. As you know, I like to end the show by posing a question at the end. If the reader could do one thing to improve their health, what should they do? I like to ask that because I love for people to walk away with actionable tips. We’ll go down the line and then we’ll go for the toast. We’ll start with you, Hilary. If the reader could do one thing to improve their health, what would you recommend that they do?

This is a little bit twofold, but find your local farmers, decide to step into your kitchens, and learn to cook.

Eat liver.

That’s super simple.

Eat butter.

To make a realistic goal of adding X number of meals more that you’ll cook per week and maybe even including that meals that you might make for family or friends that would be in need.

I would recommend exhaling.

The healing starts within you and not your doctor, your husband, your wife, or your parents. It’s all you. Bring it in you and exhale.

Thank you.

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Our guests were Hilary Boynton, Tania Teschke, Sally Fallon Morell, Jesse Straight, Robin Shirley, and Navin Hettiarachchi. Check out their websites. For Hilary, it’s School of Lunch. For Tania, it’s Bordeaux Kitchen. Sally Fallon Morell has Nourishing Traditions. You can find Jesse Straight at Whiffle Tree Farm. Robin Shirley has Take Back Your Health Retreats and Navin Hettiarachchi is Navin Health. I’m at Holistic Hilda. You can register there for my upcoming holistic and happy event at Polyface Farms in Virginia on June 10th, 2023.

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About Hilary Boynton

Hilary Boynton is the founder of School of Lunch (SOL). She is a mother of five who refused to accept the quality of food her children were being served during school lunch. She began a relentless mission to change the status quo, and eventually took over the lunch program at her local school in Topanga CA.

She worked with local farmers and food producers to create an affordable nutrient dense meal program that was based on the foundation of ancestral ways of eating. The results were astounding. It all stemmed from what she calls a Regen-Living lifestyle, where we strive for a symbiotic relationship between our bodies and our external environment. She now runs the School of Lunch Training Academy.

About Tania Teschke

Tania Teschke is a writer and photographer passionate about French food and wine. Tania has learned from winemakers, home cooks, butchers, and chefs in France while exploring the nutritional density and health benefits of an ancestral approach to food and lifestyle. Her family ties to Europe and her interest in languages and culture have led her and her family around the globe. She is the author of “The Bordeaux Kitchen” and she leads regular ancestral health tours in Switzerland and France.

About Jesse Straight

Jesse Straight, farmer and founder of Whiffletree Farm, was born and raised in Fauquier County, graduating from Fauquier High School in 2000. After finishing studies in religion and pre-med at UVa, marrying his wife Liz, and working in Charlottesville, Jesse read a book by Wendell Berry that inspired him to learn more about farming through reading, visiting farmers, and making forays into small farming ventures.

In April 2009 Jesse and Liz moved back to Warrenton to be near his family and old friends, and to start their farm business! They were happy to return to Warrenton but did not know all the ways in which they would be so well befriended and cared for here. By 2012 the business was in need of additional acreage and so the Straights moved to Whiffletree Farm, where they have been ever since.

About Robin Shirley

Robin Shirley founded Take Back Your Health™ Conferences in 2011 with the hope of inspiring her community through bringing in the health luminaries who had helped her heal. Robin grew up with chronic pain, headaches, rashes, depression, digestive discomfort and out-of-control systemic inflammation, and was diagnosed with Systemic Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis at 11 years old. She tried everything to heal naturally. Food overhauls helped a little, supplements helped a little, but nothing truly took the pain away.

At 23 years old, Robin was on track to file for disability and give up on her dream to run her own hospitality company. Just before giving up, she was diagnosed with Chronic Lyme Disease and heavy metal toxicity. Now knowing the cause of her inflammation and pain, she was able to use her knowledge of nutrition and healing to address these specific issues.

Robin has personally experienced the power of a natural approach to reducing pain and inflammation. This is when she was truly inspired, and with the help of family and friends hosted the first Take Back Your Health™ Conference. After traveling to Los Angeles to host retreats and conferences on the west coast, she is back in Virginia enjoying family life. She and her fiance have two beautiful toddlers. She is passionate about cooking, spending time outside (barefoot), and creating a satisfying, love-filled life with her family.

She is a Certified Integrative Nutrition Health Coach, intuitive energy healer and a member of the American Board of Drugless Practitioners. Robin speaks, consults and writes about The Take Back Your Health™ lifestyle and how to reduce the symptoms of chronic illness, especially in children and mothers. She has also established the Compass Learning Center project and other resources.

About Navin Hettiarachchi

Navin Hettiarachchi is the #1 health and wellness doctor for those who have tried everything – from a multitude of pills, therapies, and surgeries – and still not seeing the desired outcomes to live their dream life. He approaches each client differently, creating treatment plans customized to be as unique as each client’s thumbprint to get results.

Throughout his career, over and over again, he saw the effects of the mind – how thoughts, beliefs and emotions play a key role in physical health and wellbeing.

Navin has a Ph.D. and a Doctorate in Natural Medicine from Quantum University. He is the founder of the REDT Method (Root cause, Evaluation, Design, and Transformational treatment) for diagnosis and treatment. He is convinced that each person is the true healer. You are the true healer.

About Sally Fallon Morell

Sally Fallon Morell, MA, President, is best known as the author of the best-selling cookbook, Nourishing Traditions®: The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats. This well-researched, thought-provoking guide to traditional foods contains a startling message: animal fats and cholesterol are not villains but vital factors in the diet, necessary for normal growth, proper function of the brain and nervous system, protection from disease and optimum energy levels.

In 2009, Sally and her husband Geoffrey Morell embarked on a new venture: they purchased a farm in Southern Maryland. P. A. Bowen Farmstead is a mixed-species, pasture-based farm that produces award-winning artisan raw cheese, whey-fed woodlands pork, pastured poultry and pastured eggs. The farm does not use corn, soy, GMOs, pesticides, herbicides, hormones or antibiotics.

Sally received a Bachelor’s Degree in English with honors from Stanford University, and a Masters Degree in English with high honors from UCLA. She speaks French and Spanish. Her interests include music, gardening, metaphysics . . . and of course cooking. She lives in Brandywine, MD with her husband Geoffrey Morell. She is the mother of four and has four beautiful grandchildren, all brought up according to Nourishing Traditions® principles.