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The proposed         HG: What is the medical community looking to  as we’re seeing now, and what we witnessed
                    Covid     do, and what is your perspective on that? What  was paralysis and death as a consequence. The
                                                                       cure was infinitely worse than whatever it was
                              do you think we should do next?
             vaccine, an                                               intended to treat. Now history is repeating itself.
            RNA-based         AW: The response of the medical community  The hope is that no one will remember or will
                 vaccine,     is the one it uses when it has no answers. It’s  be reminded of that history as they rush toward
                              increasingly recognized—certainly in the upper  the market in these circumstances.
               has never      echelons of public health and the pharmaceutical     I do not think a vaccine is the answer. I’m
             been used        companies—that they’ve created this problem,  much more inclined to believe that natural herd
              in humans       though they don’t wish to discuss it. And so,  immunity is an answer. I believe that those who
                              as ever with medicine, the recommendation is  are resistant to this infection—including young,
           before—but         “take more,” “up the dose.” For example, more  healthy people—should be exposed to the infec-
                here it is    booster doses of MMR [measles-mumps-rubella  tion, get it and develop natural herd immunity.

               being put      vaccine], and booster-booster doses. It doesn’t  And those who are susceptible—the elderly
                              work. Any immunity that’s induced by those  and those with comorbid conditions—should
           into humans        boosters is short-lived and exacerbates the  be protected and isolated for a period of time
                 without      problem, but there is no answer. I’m sure that  such that natural herd immunity can develop.

          proper safety       within the research and development (R&D) de-  What we’re seeing in Sweden, for example, is
                              partment of pharmaceutical companies involved  just this strategy. No lockdown and an attempt,
                  testing.    with developing vaccines, there is a great deal  I imagine, to just let this play itself out, as most
                              of interest in developing novel forms of viral  respiratory pathogens do. And what we see,
                              vaccines, but these vaccines are terrifying. The  given how the numbers are emerging, is that
                              proposed Covid vaccine, an RNA-based vac-  this disease is no worse in terms of its mortality
                              cine, has never been used in humans before. It’s  than the quoted figures for seasonal influenza in
                              a terrifying concept to many of us—but here it  this country. So why are we in this extraordinary
                              is being put into humans without proper safety  situation?
                              testing. It’s alarming. People who have created
                              this problem have no answers to solve it.  HG: It’s such a great question. And yet, Fauci
                                                                       said recently on a newscast that he didn’t want
                              HG: This gives me pause. People are terrified by  the population to develop herd immunity. I’m
                              the virus and are looking for a vaccine to help.  told he said that because he doesn’t want to see
                              Some see the vaccine as the only hope. I take it  the fallout of all the deaths such as what we’ve
                              you would disagree with that?            heard about in Ecuador, where there are so many
                                                                       people dying that they’re running out of coffins
                              AW: I would disagree totally. Firstly, there is  and using cardboard boxes. I guess he doesn’t
                              the intrinsic issue of the vaccine per se. You’re  want people to get out because no matter how
                              using a vaccine strategy that has never been  strong and vibrant they seem, they may end
                              used before. People have tried for many years  up dying, and nobody wants a lot of deaths on
                              to develop a vaccine to the common cold virus  their watch.
                              (one type being coronaviruses) and have failed
                              repeatedly. Therefore, it seems to be an exqui-  AW: Yes. I disagree with Tony Fauci on many,
                              sitely difficult problem to deal with. In addition,  many levels. The data that are emerging from
                              our past experience with untried, untested vac-  other countries—data are infinitely difficult to
                              cines that are rushed to market is not good—not  interpret because definitions have been changed
                              good at all. This is illustrated in my new film,  to suit government policy. If you want to per-
                              1986: The Act. Consider the swine flu vaccine in  suade a population to get a vaccine—a flu vac-
                              the late 1970s. The problem was that the virus  cine, for example—you will inflate the number
                              was not what the CDC said it was—it was not  of flu deaths by calling any respiratory illness
                              the “killer swine flu” of 1917. And the vaccine  leading to death an “influenza death.” Those are
                              was dangerous. It was rushed to market, just  the circumstances in which we currently find
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